Desiree Talks with Marnie McBain — Certified Intuitive Counselor, author of The 13th Cardinal, and the founder of Intuitive Butterfly Inc.

The conversation weaves through therapeutic methods, spirituality, intuitive skills, and the use of lived experiences when working with others. Throughout the conversation, Desiree and Marne provides practical advice on how to support clients in their healing journey. They stress the significance of empowerment through adversity, encouraging clients to embrace challenges as opportunities for growth. Recognize patterns and cycles that hinder progress.Encourage clients to take responsibility for their actions. Facilitate self-reflection to promote growth. Also an author, Marnie has published The 13th Cardinal (2026) – A spiritual thriller novel following Maggie Magdalene, a woman who becomes the first female Cardinal via a secret papal decree, discovers a hidden witch ancestry, and unearths dangerous suppressed truths inside the Vatican's restricted archives, and Memoirs of a Single Traveling Mom: Travels with Toby – A personal memoir chronicling her choice to leave a traditional 9–5 life behind to raise her son while budget-traveling and worldschooling.

Video Chapters0:00 Introduction to Marne McBain4:51 The Friend You Need Story9:42 Kindness vs. Cruelty in Counseling14:33 Snowflakes and Validation Culture19:24 Empowering Personal Accountability24:15 Marne's Journey to Counseling29:06 Formal Training and Life Experience33:57 Choosing the Right Counselor38:48 Personal Growth Through Adversity43:44 Parenting and Personal Development48:35 Integrating Life Lessons in Practice53:26 Final Thoughts and Reflections

To find more about Marnie visit these links: marnie@intuitivebutterfly.comthefracturedtruth.substack.comFor Desiree's links follow these: www.TransHypnotherapy.com www.IntuitiveJourneywithDesiree.comwww.artistdesireescherini.comhttps://linktr.ee/DesireeScherini Intuitive Journey is available on YouTube and most major Podcast carriers - Spotify, Apple ITunes, IHeart Radio and more!