On today's episode of Roll Call, Brian and Josh sit down with Melissa Cassel, Dean of Students at Walnut Hill School for the Arts, to talk about what it really means to support teenagers in a place where school isn't just academics — it's a double curriculum of rigorous classes and intense artistic training, all inside a 24/7 boarding environment.

Melissa shares how she landed at Walnut Hill almost by accident… and why she stayed for 28 years: the job keeps changing, the students keep evolving, and the best part is watching young people become more confident, resilient, and fully themselves. She breaks down what a "normal day" actually looks like for a student (it's a marathon), why the arts are more than career prep, and how artistic training teaches skills most adults still struggle with — accepting critique, taking risks, making mistakes, and trying again.

The conversation also tackles bigger questions: how to help parents take the leap, what's changed in young artists over the last decade (hello, perfectionism and fear of failure), what grit looks like when your "instrument" is your body or voice, and why the future of arts education is shifting toward impact and global connection — not just technical excellence.

This is a thoughtful, human conversation for school leaders, boarding professionals, and parents who want their children to be more than high-performing… they want them to be whole.

Show notes:

00:00 – Introducing Melissa Cassel

01:23 – 28 years as Dean: how the job (and expectations) have changed

03:32 – A day in the life at Walnut Hill: the "double curriculum" reality

07:20 – Defending the arts: transferable skills, identity, and being "whole people"

10:08 – The tipping point for parents: "Your kid will be seen here"

12:57 – What's changed in young artists: perfectionism, fear of failure, learning through

mistakes

16:07 – What grit looks like when you're constantly judged as the instrument

19:05 – Why boarding makes the arts different: empathy, community, and processing in real

time

22:38 – Structure vs creativity: adjusting rules, accountability, and independence

32:52 – Where arts education is going next + Lightning Round

Learn more about Walnut Hill and Melissa Cassel: https://www.walnuthillarts.org/about/leadership

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