Father Patrick Griffin, CM, is back on the podcast and this time, he's talking about angels. Father Patrick leads us through instances in the Bible in which we hear about angels, explains the significance of these encounters, and even gives examples of times he himself believes he has experienced angels.

Today, our host, Sister Liz Sjoberg, DC, sits down with her friend and housemate, Sister Cecilia West, DC, to explore a vocation shaped by simple beginnings, unexpected turns, and God’s persistent whisper.

Sister Cecilia shares her story of growing up in small-town Mississippi, discovering the Daughters of Charity through a series of quiet nudges, and spending more than two decades teaching preschoolers despite never wanting to become a teacher. Her path then led her into hospital ministry, where she found deep purpose accompanying people in psychiatric crisis and offering calm in chaos. She even notes some unexpected parallels between calming a classroom of three-year-olds and de-escalating emergency situations.

Throughout the episode, Sister Cecilia reflects on learning her gifts through others, trusting God one step at a time, and the power of small acts of love.

In this reflective episode, Sister Liz welcomes back Father Patrick McDevitt, C.M., now President and CEO of St. Luke Institute. Drawing from his decades as a Vincentian priest and counseling psychologist, Father Pat explores how healing, faith, and human wholeness are intertwined. Together, they unpack why true growth requires letting go of the fight, embracing pain as a teacher, and recognizing that God is already present in every moment of our lives. With stories of grace, vulnerability, and encounter, this episode invites listeners to see life not as a problem to be solved, but a mystery to be lived.