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Leadership can begin with a sincere desire to serve—and quietly turn into the belief that everything depends on you.
In this episode of the Impact Nations Podcast, Tim Stewart welcomes author, speaker, leadership coach, and Ezer Collective founder Jo Saxton for an honest conversation about calling, character, burnout, identity, and the hidden costs of leading others.
Jo challenges the idea that leadership is simply a position or job title. Healthy leadership is shaped by how we use our influence, how honestly we face our wounds and limitations, and whether the people around us are becoming healthier—or simply learning to imitate our dysfunction.
Together, Tim and Jo explore imposter syndrome, the pressure to be the solution, the importance of rest and trusted relationships, and what happens when leaders ignore their humanity for too long. Jo also shares candidly about her own season of exhaustion and disillusionment, why she needed to step away, and what helped her rediscover her calling.
The conversation also turns toward how churches identify and develop leaders, why charisma must never be valued above character, and whether our practices truly reflect what we claim to believe about women and leadership.
In this episode:
• Why leadership is more than a title, platform, or position
• How imposter syndrome can prevent people from developing their gifts
• Why leaders become dangerous when they believe they are the solution
• How our habits quietly shape the culture around us
• The importance of trusted friends who can tell us the truth
• What burnout, betrayal, and disappointment can cost a leader
• Why charisma should never matter more than character
• How churches unintentionally create unhealthy leadership cultures
• What meaningful investment in women leaders actually requires
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Jo Saxton
https://www.josaxton.com
Ezer Collective and REVIVE
Leadership development and restorative spaces for women leading across ministry, business, healthcare, education, nonprofit work, and other fields:
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