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  • Quiverfull

    Quiverfull
    2025/09/12
    Quiverfull is an evangelical Christian philosophy that takes the Biblical command to "be fruitful and multiply" extremely literally by refusing to use any contraception, including natural family planning. It rarely sees coverage in the mainstream media, so this week, Josh and June look into the principles and practical lifestyle of Quiverfull and discover why it holds such a strong appeal to a certain type of Christian. ***WE WANT YOUR THOUGHTS FOR THE WEEKLY MAILBAG! Send an email with feedback about this week's episode to illconceivedpod@gmail.com*** EPISODE ART: Jim Bob Duggar, a realtor and politician from Arkansas. After serving as a member of the Arkansas State House of Representatives for four years, Duggar mounted an unsuccessful primary challenge for US Senate in 2002 and again for Arkansas State Senate in 2006. From 2008 to 2015, Jim Bob, his wife, and their children were featured on the TLC series 19 Kids and Counting (formerly 17 Kids and Counting and 18 Kids and Counting). AUDIO CLIPS: 33:03 – The introduction to the “Defining Manhood and Womanhood” episode of the CBMW podcast44:52 – A trailer for a Quiverfull advocacy documentary entitled Birth Control: Is It Up To Us?50:09 – Jennifer Flanders, a mother of 12, in an interview for Al Jazeera America Tonight1:06:56 – Olivia Shedd, a 12-year-old eldest daughter, in an interview for HDNet World Report1:10:23 – Jay Jusino, a quiverfull father and Christian schoolteacher, in an interview for a Quiverfull advocacy documentary FURTHER READING: “The Baby Died. Whose Fault Is It?” by Emi Nietfield (Wired, September 3, 2025)"Why Are There So Many Mormon Influencers (A Theory)" by Alyssa GreenfieldUtah stats on intimate partner/domestic violence SOURCES: Saving Sex: Sexuality and Salvation in American Evangelicalism by Amy DeRogatis (Oxford UP, 2014)Quiverfull: Inside the Christian Patriarchy Movement by Kathryn Joyce (Beacon Press, 2009)“The Population Bust: An Opportunity” by David Crank (Unless The Lord… Magazine, Fall 2004)“Quiverfull of Shit: a Guide to the Duggars' Scary Brand of Christianity” by Jennifer C. Martin (Gawker, May 25, 2015)The Danvers Statement as posted on the CBMW website“The Unmaking of Biblical Womanhood” by Eliza Griswold (The New Yorker, July 25, 2021)“In Quiverfull Movement, Birth Control Is Shunned” by Barbara Bradley Hagert (NPR Morning Edition, March 25, 2009)Birth Control: Is It Up To Us? Trailer“Beyond Belief: Is Eight Enough?” (HDNet World Report, August 11, 2009)“Inside the home of one family living the ‘Quiverfull’ lifestyle” (Al Jazeera America Tonight, February 8, 2016)Quiver Full Documentary FOLLOW THE SHOW: Website: illconceivedpodcast.comBluesky: ‪@illconceivedpodcast.comTumblr: @illconceivedpod FOLLOW JOSH: Website: joshboerman.comBluesky: @bosh.worstpossible.worldOther podcast: The Worst of All Possible WorldsStream: Traditional Scrench FOLLOW JUNE: Bluesky: @junlper.beerOther podcast: Kill The ComputerWriting: June's Substack
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    1 時間 26 分
  • Tradwives

    Tradwives
    2025/09/05

    Within the last few years, women portraying themselves online with a “trad wife” aesthetic have skyrocketed in popularity. This new trend embraces long dresses, traditional gender roles, cooking homemade meals, and raising massive families. Josh and June take a look into what the Trad Wife life experience is all about, what’s so appealing about it to some women, and the aspects that make it more than just a harmless apolitical lifestyle.

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    EPISODE ART: Abby Shapiro Roth, a "traditional lifestyle" content creator who formerly published videos on YouTube as Classically Abby and now writes a newsletter called The First-Gen SAHM. She's also Ben Shapiro's sister.

    AUDIO CLIPS:

    • 21:54 – Nara Smith's homemade Cinnamon Toast Crunch TikTok
    • 23:52 – Estee Williams prepares for her husband
    • 29:59 – Alena Kate Pettit in a podcast interview about being a #TradWife
    • 39:19 – Abby Shapiro on five lies the Left tells women from her YouTube channel, Classically Abby

    SOURCES:

    • A Trad Wife Tragedy
    • Why the resurgence of trad wives is more alarming than you think
    • The Rise and Fall of the Trad Wife
    • Tradwife life isn't as good as it looks on TikTok — just ask former tradwives
    • Meet the queen of the ‘trad wives’ (and her eight children)
    • Is the Tradwife just a kink? Don't underestimate the happy housewife's power
    • Florida Says It Plans to End All Vaccine Mandates
    • The #tradwife Movement and Christian Womanhood
    • Opinion: How Mormonism Churns Out the Most Influential #TradWives
    • The Four Levels Of Manliness
    • What it’s like to be a trad kid

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    1 時間 34 分
  • Purity Balls & Daddy-Daughter Dates

    Purity Balls & Daddy-Daughter Dates
    2025/08/29

    Purity is a load-bearing concept in the conservative Christian ideal of family and reproduction. From as young as five years old, Christian girls are told to guard their hearts and bodies against men with bad intentions. But what about a positive model of masculine pursuit? This week, Josh and June take a look at the men who believe the best way to teach their daughters about their worth is to take them out on dates and pledge to guard their virtue in elaborate ceremonies known as purity balls.

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    EPISODE ART: Randy Wilson, field director for the Family Research Council and creator of the concept of the purity ball

    AUDIO CLIPS:

    • 13:41 – Dr. James Dobson talks about father/daughter dates in a Dr. Dobson Minute
    • 19:42 – Dennis Rainey and Bob Lapine talk about father/daughter dates on an episode of FamilyTalk
    • 50:54 – Hannah Lane and her father Ken in an interview from the documentary The Virgin Daughters
    • 53:55 – Lisa Wilson in an interview from The Virgin Daughters
    • 57:45 – Randy Wilson in an interview from The Virgin Daughters
    • 1:00:44 – Interview from The Virgin Daughters
    • 1:10:36 – Clip from Virgin Tales (2012)
    • 1:16:35 – Jody Hice & Randy Wilson in an interview about Mike Johnson for the Family Research Council's Washington Watch

    SOURCES:

    • "'Purity Balls' Get Attention, but Might Not Be All They Claim" by Mark Oppenheimer (The New York Times, July 20, 2012)
    • "Daddy’s Little Girls: On the Perils of Chastity Clubs, Purity Balls, and Ritualized Abstinence" by Breanne Fahs (Frontiers: A Journal of Woman Studies, 2010)
    • 88 Great Daddy-Daughter Dates by Joanna & Rob Teigen (Revell, 2012)
    • Daddy Dates: Four Daughters, One Clueless Dad, and His Quest to Win Their Hearts by Greg Wright (Thomas Nelson, 2011)
    • "Would You Pledge Your Virginity to Your Father?" by Jennifer Baumgardner (Glamour, December 31, 2006)
    • "The Purity Ball: A promise I didn't understand" by Eboni Statham (Cipher, March 13, 2017)
    • "Women’s Bodies Are Bearing the Brunt of Purity Culture" by Karen Alea (Jezebel, September 20, 2022)
    • Saving Sex: Sexuality and Salvation in American Evangelicalism by Amy DeRogatis (Oxford UP, 2014)
    • The Virgin Daughters dir. Jane Treays (Channel 4, 2008)
    • Virgin Tales dir. Mirjam von Arx (Ican Films, 2012)

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    1 時間 23 分
  • Oops! All Mailbag

    Oops! All Mailbag
    2025/08/25

    Josh is still really tired from his trip to Europe so we talked about James Dobson for a bit and then read some listener mail. Our regular programming will resume Friday, and we thank you for all of your thoughtful feedback!

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    FURTHER READING:

    "AI: The New Aesthetics of Fascism" by Gareth Watkins, New Socialist

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    1 時間 8 分
  • Project 2025 and the Future of Sex Education

    Project 2025 and the Future of Sex Education
    2025/08/15
    The era of the Christian political agenda and conservative cultural hegemony took a backseat after Obama ushered in a time of progressive social optimism. For a moment, it felt like conservatives would never win again, especially on social issues. But they did. This week, June and Josh explore how the Obama administration rolled back abstinence-only sex education while advancing liberal social causes. Then they discover how the Christian right strategized to take back over politics and successfully redirected culture toward conservatism through the Heritage Foundation and its signature document: Project 2025. ***WE WANT YOUR THOUGHTS FOR THE WEEKLY MAILBAG! Send an email with feedback about this week's episode to illconceivedpod@gmail.com*** AUDIO CLIPS: 47:13 - Former US Education Secretary Betsy DeVos in a PragerU video about Title IX SOURCES: Elucidating the relationships between shame, anger, and self-destructive behaviors: The role of aversive responses to emotionsOmnibus Appropriations Bill Advances Reproductive Health Care (2019)New Trump teen pregnancy approach stresses abstinence (2018)Trump Has an Abstinence-Only Vision for Federally Funded Family Planning Programs (2019)The link between book restrictions and sex education (2023)Conservative and Cultural Clashes with Comprehensive Sexuality EducationBirth rate among U.S. teenagers aged 15-19 years from 1991 to 2023Biden's New School Rules Protect LGBTQ StudentsWhy Conservatives Want New Title IX Rule BlockedTrump administration to audit California sex education curriculum for ‘medical accuracy’ (2025)Mandate For Leadership: The Conservative Promise (Project 2025)How Project 2025 Would Devastate Public EducationImpact of the Executive Order Redefining Sex on Transgender, Nonbinary, and Intersex PeopleJudge blocks Trump’s efforts to defund Planned ParenthoodTimeline of Abstinence-Only Education in U.S. ClassroomsDepartment of Education Reverts to Trump’s Title IX RuleMore older women becoming first-time moms amid U.S. fertility rate declinesProject 2025 Tracker FOLLOW THE SHOW: Website: illconceivedpodcast.comBluesky: ‪@illconceivedpodcast.comTumblr: @illconceivedpod FOLLOW JOSH: Website: joshboerman.comBluesky: @bosh.worstpossible.worldOther podcast: The Worst of All Possible WorldsStream: Traditional Scrench FOLLOW JUNE: Bluesky: @junlper.beerOther podcast: Kill The ComputerWriting: June's Substack
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    1 時間 18 分
  • Abstinence-Only Sex Education

    Abstinence-Only Sex Education
    2025/08/08
    There's one guaranteed way to never get pregnant or contract a sexually transmitted infection: not having sex. In the 1990s, the United States government expanded efforts to fund programs that taught adolescents this fact. Unfortunately, that funding came with a few restrictions—most notably, the programs weren't allowed to promote or demonstrate any type of contraception whatsoever. This week, June and Josh try to figure out how these abstinence-only until marriage sex education initiatives got so much traction for so long. ***IN EDINBURGH THIS WEEK? Get tickets to the play Josh is directing, THE BOY FROM BANTAY, by clicking here!*** EPISODE ART: A graph from a report commissioned by the United States government to study the effectiveness of four abstinence-only sex education programs. There is no meaningful difference in outcomes between those who participated in the program and those who didn't. SOURCES: "Budget Widens Teen-Pregnancy-Prevention Efforts" by Laura Meckler (The Wall Street Journal, May 7, 2009)"Clinton Fires Surgeon General Over New Flap" by Paul Richter and Marlene Cimons (Los Angeles Times, December 10, 1994)History of Dedicated Federal Abstinence-Only-Until-Marriage Programs FY 1982-2019 from the Sexuality Information and Education Council of the United States (SIECUS)"Context counts: Long‐term sequelae of premarital intercourse or abstinence" by Nicole M. Else-Quest, Janet Shibley Hyde & John D. DeLamater (The Journal of Sex Research, 2005)Full text of Section 510, the Separate Program for Abstinence Education"Whatever Happened to the Adolescent Family Life Act?" by Rebecca Saul (Guttmacher Report on Public Policy, 1998)"Clinton Frees $250 Million for Sex Abstinence Teaching" by Melissa Healy (Los Angeles Times, March 1, 1997)"Impacts of Four Title V, Section 510 Abstinence Programs" report, published by HHS in 2007"Consequences of sex education on teen and young adult sexual behaviors and outcomes" by Laura Duberstein Lindberg & Isaac Maddow-Zimet (The Journal of Adolescent Health, 2012)"Funding for Abstinence-Only Education and Adolescent Pregnancy Prevention: Does State Ideology Affect Outcomes?" by Ashley M Fox, Georgia Himmelstein, Hina Khalid & Elizabeth A. Howell (American Journal of Public Health, 2019)"Sex Education in Public Schools: Sexualization of Children and LGBT Indoctrination" by Cathy Ruse (Family Research Council, 2020)"The History of Federal Abstinence-Only Funding" fact sheet (Advocates for Youth, 2007)"Abstinence Education: Assessing the Evidence" by Christine C. Kim and Robert Rector (Heritage Foundation, 2008) AUDIO CLIPS: 29:58 - Rush Limbaugh talking about Joycelyn Elders on an episode of the Rush Limbaugh Show ca. 199435:30 - Joycelyn Elders in an interview with the National Visionary Leadership Project1:04:03 - "Learn Gun Safety with Eddie Eagle" children's training video from the National Rifle Association (NRA) FOLLOW THE SHOW: Send us an email: illconceivedpod@gmail.comWebsite: illconceivedpodcast.comBluesky: ‪@illconceivedpodcast.comTumblr: @illconceivedpod FOLLOW JOSH: Website: joshboerman.comBluesky: @bosh.worstpossible.worldOther podcast: The Worst of All Possible WorldsStream: Traditional Scrench FOLLOW JUNE: Bluesky: @junlper.beerOther podcast: Kill The ComputerWriting: June's Substack
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    1 時間 33 分
  • Lyman Stone, Marriage Defender

    Lyman Stone, Marriage Defender
    2025/07/25
    With natalism coming to the forefront of American politics in recent years, people who have long been writing about the declining birth rate have begun to take center stage in the larger political discourse. Many of these thinkers skew toward a conservative ideology. This week, Josh and June read through the writings of a modern conservative natalist writer, Lyman Stone, to get a better picture of where the natalist movement stands and better understand the political demands of the conservative natalist in the era of Donald Trump. EPISODE ART: Lyman Stone press photo from Demographic Research SOURCES: As women have far fewer babies, the U.S. and the world face unprecedented challengesLyman Stone on America’s falling birth rateNow Political Polarization Comes for Marriage ProspectsYou can’t even pay people to have more kidsPresident Trump’s First 100 Days, April 2025How Politics Drive Our Personal Relationships – and Even Where We LiveArranged and non-arranged marriages have similar reproductive outcomes in NepalPromise and Peril: The History of American Religiosity and Its Recent DeclineThe Declining U.S. Birth Rate: A Demographic Shift with Far-Reaching ImplicationsWhat Workism Is Doing to ParentsNow Political Polarization Comes for Marriage ProspectsHungary’s Demographic FailureHow to Fix Our Falling Fertility Rate (with Lyman Stone)Want More American Babies? Make the US More LivableMore Thoughts on Falling Fertility AUDIO CLIPS 21:12 / 25:44 - Lyman Stone in an interview with Vox Media's Today, Explained FOLLOW THE SHOW: Send us an email: illconceivedpod@gmail.comWebsite: illconceivedpodcast.comBluesky: ‪@illconceivedpodcast.comTumblr: @illconceivedpod FOLLOW JOSH: Website: joshboerman.comBluesky: @bosh.worstpossible.worldOther podcast: The Worst of All Possible WorldsStream: Traditional Scrench FOLLOW JUNE: Bluesky: @junlper.beerOther podcast: Western KabukiWriting: June's Substack
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    59 分
  • James Dobson & Focus on the Family

    James Dobson & Focus on the Family
    2025/07/18
    In the history of the evangelical Christian family movement, one figure stands tall above the rest: a children's psychologist from Louisiana named James Dobson. For three decades, Dobson built up his media empire, Focus on the Family, on the back of his plain-spoken traditionalist approach to child rearing. Then, as the broader cultural tide shifted in favor of normalizing homosexual relationships, he got kicked out. This week, Josh and June take a look at why Dobson's approach resonated with so many parents in the 1970s, 80s and 90s, how his work institutionalized the natalist project among evangelical Christians, and how religious fundamentalism, no matter how polite, corrodes a healthy society. SUPPLEMENTAL LISTENING: Listen to I Hate James Dobson: Apple Podcasts / Spotify / Pocket Casts / YouTubeListen to The Worst of All Possible Worlds episode about the James Dobson/Ted Bundy interview: Apple Podcasts / Spotify / Pocket Casts / YouTube EPISODE ART: Focus on the Family press photo of James Dobson c. 2007 SOURCES: Focus on the Family's official historical timelineFocus on the Family 2015 financial disclosures, ProPublicaDobson's 1999 announcement of the leadership succession planDobson's 2003 announcement of Don Hodel's appointment as CEOFocus on the Family's Guiding Principles as enumerated on their website in November 2002Focus on the Family's Guiding Principles as enumerated on their website todayFamily Research Council list of Family Policy Councils AUDIO CLIPS: 33:52 - James Dobson interviews Ted Bundy on death row1:00:24 - James Dobson in a Focus on the Family Radio broadcast, October 6, 20051:04:03 - Guy Raz interviews Jim Daly on NPR All Things Considered (February 12, 2012)1:11:16 - James Dobson interviews Ken Harrison, former Promise Keepers chairman, on Family Talk Radio1:15:38 - James Dobson talks about declining birth rates on Family Talk Radio FOLLOW THE SHOW: Website: illconceivedpodcast.comBluesky: ‪@illconceivedpodcast.comTumblr: @illconceivedpod FOLLOW JOSH: Website: joshboerman.comBluesky: @bosh.worstpossible.worldOther podcast: The Worst of All Possible WorldsStream: Traditional Scrench FOLLOW JUNE: Bluesky: @junlper.beerOther podcast: Western KabukiWriting: June's Substack
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    1 時間 20 分