In this thought-provoking episode, Laura Monroe, Chief Innovation and Strategy Officer for REALM Global flips the script — literally — and interviews two of the show's own voices: Asha Saxena (tech entrepreneur, Columbia University professor, and AI author) and Abigail Posner (anthropologist, former Google executive, and creator of The Human Code). Together they explore a central question: in the age of AI, how do we become more human, not less?
The "Why" Behind the Data
Abigail traces her career from social anthropology to brand strategy to Google, where she realized the industry had plenty of what (data) but lacked the why (human understanding). Her mission became decoding why people do what they do — and using that to build better products, brands, and experiences.
AI as a Forcing Function for Self-Discovery
Both guests agree: AI isn't stripping us of our humanity — it's forcing us to rediscover it. By automating rote tasks, AI creates head space to focus on creativity, EQ, and deeper self-awareness. As Abigail puts it, many of us have been on "autopilot" in our careers for years. AI is upending that — and that's a good thing.
The Expansiveness Edge
Abigail introduces her concept of the Expansiveness Edge (the subject of her upcoming book and a keynote at the next Realm conference): the idea that we are far more than our job title or industry box. By combining the divergent sides of ourselves — an engineer who loves art, an anthropologist who loves the stage — we unlock a unique creative power that no one else can replicate. AI is a powerful tool to help surface and combine those sides.
AI as Creative Partner, Not Source of Truth
A key insight from the conversation: AI "Hoovers up" the most common, popular information. To find real insight, you have to push past the generic and ask for the outliers. AI is a partner for discovery, not a replacement for human judgment. The best results come from curious, iterative questioning — not copy-pasting the first answer.
Questions Drive Everything
Both Asha and Abigail emphasize that the quality of your AI output is entirely dependent on the quality of your questions. "If you ask a good question, you get a good answer." The differentiator between professionals in the AI era won't be access to tools — everyone will have them — but the depth and curiosity of the questions they ask.
AI as a Resource, Not a Revolution
Asha shares a moment from one of her AI steering committees where a CEO cut through the noise: "AI is just another resource. Show me the money." Whether it's people, technology, or AI — it's a tool. The human remains the architect: deciding what to build, what questions to ask, and how to use the output to add value.
The Future Belongs to the Whole Human
The episode closes with a rallying cry: stay curious, stay a lifelong learner, and jump in. The professionals who will stand out aren't those who fear AI — they're those who combine their full, multidimensional selves with AI's capabilities to create something only they could create.
Key Quotes
- "AI is not just facilitating that by taking away a lot of the technical stuff — it's actually a tool to enable us to really explore our humanness even more." — Abigail Posner
- "If you ask a good question, you're gonna get a good answer. You decide how you're going to use that answer to become a better professional." — Asha Saxena
- "AI is just another resource. Use it intelligently to add value wherever you're going." — Asha Saxena
- "It gives you the clay." — Abigail Posner
Topics Covered: AI & creativity, the Expansiveness Edge, self-discovery, anthropology & technology, AI governance, luxury & individuality, lifelong learning, the future of work