Engineering leaders are drowning in AI hype. Everyone's hearing promises of 5x, 10x productivity gains, and very few are actually seeing them. Justin Reock, CTO at DX (recently acquired by Atlassian), has the data to cut through the noise.

Host Emma Webb and Justin get into what top-performing teams are doing differently, why AI coding tools are only attacking 16% of the problem, and what "AI readiness" really means in practice.

They also cover rubric-based self-validation for agentic code, token cost optimization, and the danger of Goodhart's Law in engineering metrics. Plus a hot take: if developer experience is the leading indicator of developer productivity, agent experience is going to be the leading indicator of agent productivity.

If you lead an engineering team and you're trying to figure out where AI fits and whether it's working, this one's for you.

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