If you’ve ever thought…

“I care about climate change… but I’m not doing enough.”

This conversation is for you.

According to climate communication expert Ali Wines, one of the biggest reasons people stay silent about climate change is shame.

We think we have to be perfect before we can speak up.

Perfect lifestyle. Perfect choices. Perfect solutions.

But that mindset is exactly what keeps people stuck.

The truth?

Most people already care deeply about the planet — they just assume everyone else doesn’t.

In this episode, we talk about:

•⁠ ⁠why guilt and perfectionism backfire

•⁠ ⁠the surprising data about how many people actually care

•⁠ ⁠why conversation is one of the most powerful forms of action

•⁠ ⁠how reconnecting with nature can change everything

You don’t have to be perfect to care.

You just have to start talking.

🎧 Full conversation with Ali Wines, CEO of the Climate Communication Alliance, on Connected with Jen & Shannon.