In this episode, Nathanael sits down with botanist Andrew Hipp, author of the book Oak Origins, to deconstruct the mystery of the oak tree. While we often think of species as fixed categories, Dr. Hipp reveals that the oak genome is a fluid, radical masterpiece of evolution. Whether you are a nature lover, a jazz head, or a curious listener, this episode will change the way you look at the trees and species in your backyard and the music in your headphones.

Check out Andrew's book "Oak Origins"

What’s the connection between the tiny arachnid in your house and metal music?

In this episode, join spider expert Marc Milne and botanist Nathanael Pilla discuss why spiders are these misunderstood creatures who deserve our respect (and maybe a little love) and how that mirrors often misunderstood genres of metal music. After listening, you might just open up a new appreciation for the diverse and incredible things in the world. Tune in to learn why both spiders and metal deserve a second look.