In this episode, Dr Maya Ackerman, computer scientist, CEO, musician, and author of the new book "Creative Machines: AI, Art and Us," explores the intersection of artificial intelligence and human creativity.
This conversation with Maya challenges fundamental assumptions about machine creativity, with her arguing that the fear of AI hallucinations reveals more about human psychology than technology limitations. She contends that human thought itself is based on hallucinations (primarily our ability to predict and imagine) and that machines' imaginative capabilities make them powerful creative partners rather than threats.
Together we explore how AI can expand our creative search space rather than narrow it, using examples from Maya's company WaveAI's Lyric Studio, which helps users explore unlikely lyrical possibilities. Maya also discusses the importance of "humble creative machines" that elevate human creativity rather than replace it, contrasting collaborative AI with the current trend toward "all-knowing oracle" systems.
The discussion tackles contentious questions about machine creativity, consciousness, and the anthropocentric assumptions that shape our understanding of intelligence and creativity.
Maya advocates for recognising that creativity is "novelty plus value" rather than emotion-dependent, arguing that evolution itself demonstrates non-emotional creative processes. She emphasises the need to move beyond collective narcissism toward genuine human-AI collaboration that enhances rather than diminishes human capabilities.
The episode concludes with Maya's vision of two possible futures: one driven by greed toward unemployment and inequality, another toward collaboration, freedom, and enhanced creativity. She calls for active engagement from all stakeholders (users, builders, investors) to shape AI development toward human flourishing.
Essential listening for anyone interested in creativity, consciousness, and the future of human-machine collaboration.
AI Ethics Now
Exploring the ethical dilemmas of AI in Higher Education and beyond.
A University of Warwick IATL Podcast
This podcast series was developed by Dr Tom Ritchie and Dr Jennie Mills, the module leads of the IATL module "The AI Revolution: Ethics, Technology, and Society" at the University of Warwick. The AI Revolution module explores the history, current state, and potential futures of artificial intelligence, examining its profound impact on society, individuals, and the very definition of 'humanness.'
This podcast was initially designed to provide a deeper dive into the key themes explored each week in class. We want to share the discussions we have had to help offer a broader, interdisciplinary perspective on the ethical and societal implications of artificial intelligence to a wider audience.
Join each fortnight for new critical conversations on AI Ethics with local, national, and international experts.
We will discuss:
- Ethical Dimensions of AI: Fairness, bias, transparency, and accountability.
- Societal Implications: How AI is transforming industries, economies, and our understanding of humanity.
- The Future of AI: Potential benefits, risks, and shaping a future where AI serves humanity.
If you want to join the podcast as a guest, contact Tom.Ritchie@warwick.ac.uk.