What happens when a former metallurgical scientist and police officer sees something in the sky he can't explain—and spends the next 50 years trying to understand it?

In Episode 7 of the Crew One Podcast, Adam sits down with UFO experiencer and CE5 practitioner Ed Copley for a wide-ranging conversation about UFO contact, consciousness, meditation and the possibility of direct communication with non-human intelligence.

Ed's story stretches back to the 1970s, when he and another police officer watched two enormous, silent, boomerang-shaped objects pass overhead — an encounter they kept to themselves out of fear of ridicule and professional consequences.

Decades later, Ed is no longer keeping quiet.He shares stories from years of CE5 events and investigations: a mantis-like being perceived during his first CE5 experience, strange photographic anomalies, apparent time distortion during meditation, encounters with unexplained entities, objects that seem to respond to requests, and a recent experience in which he says a green laser struck something invisible and appeared to change from green to red.

The conversation eventually goes much deeper: What role does consciousness play in the UFO phenomenon? Why do different people perceive different things? Are UFOs, paranormal experiences and spirituality connected? And could disclosure ultimately come not from governments — but from ordinary people making contact themselves?

As Ed puts it: “I think we the people are going to be the disclosure.”

This is a conversation about UFOs, but also about fear, curiosity, consciousness, human perception, and what might happen if we discover that we're not alone.Keep looking up...don't forget to like, share and subscribe!

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