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What happens when a psychiatrist sits down with a Stanford physics professor to talk about gravitational waves, dark matter, quantum mechanics, and atoms existing in two places at once?

In this episode of No Reason to Get Excited (NRTGE), Dr. Aaron Winkler talks with Stanford Physicist Peter Graham about the strange and fascinating world of modern physics. What starts as a conversation about gravitational wave detection quickly turns into a deep exploration of quantum mechanics, atom interferometry, atomic clocks, dark matter, and the bizarre reality of particles behaving like waves.

Peter explains how researchers are building tabletop experiments capable of measuring incredibly small distortions in space-time, why gravity is surprisingly weak compared to electromagnetism, and how a single atom can exist in two places at once. Along the way, Aaron asks the kinds of questions many listeners are probably thinking themselves, leading to a conversation that feels less like a formal interview and more like two curious minds trying to make sense of the universe together.

This episode is not a simplified science lecture. It’s an intellectually alive conversation about uncertainty, experimentation, physics, and the limits of human intuition.

About the Guest

Peter Graham is a professor of physics at Stanford University whose research focuses on fundamental physics, dark matter, gravitational waves, and precision measurement techniques using atomic systems. His work often bridges theoretical physics and experimental collaboration, helping develop new ways to probe some of the deepest unanswered questions in modern science.

Connect with Peter:

Website: https://physics.stanford.edu/people/peter-graham

Chapters

00:00 – Introduction to Peter Graham and Stanford Physics
03:20 – Why Collaboration Matters in Modern Physics
05:10 – The Problem with Dark Matter and Fundamental Physics
06:00 – Building New Experiments Instead of Bigger Colliders
07:00 – How LIGO Detects Gravitational Waves
09:30 – Why Gravity Is Surprisingly Weak
11:20 – Gravitons, Dark Matter, and Unanswered Questions
15:15 – Atom Interferometry Explained
18:00 – Quantum Mechanics and Probability Waves
24:40 – Using Lasers to Manipulate Atoms
29:20 – The History of Particle Physics and Scientific Discovery
33:00 – What Quantum Waves Actually Mean
41:00 – Vacuum Chambers, Cooling Atoms, and Laser Physics
47:00 – How Laser Cooling Works
55:00 – Creating an Atomic Interferometer
1:00:30 – Measuring Time with Atomic Clocks
1:08:00 – Using Atoms to Detect Gravitational Waves
1:15:00 – Earth’s Gravity, Potential Energy, and Quantum States
1:20:00 – Why Vertical Mine Shafts Matter
1:24:00 – Measuring Acceleration with Atomic Systems
1:28:00 – Building the Future of Gravitational Wave Detection

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Connect with Dr. Aaron Winkler

• Website: www.aaronwinklermd.com
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