There's a workforce inside your agency that nobody hired, no one trained, and nobody is watching. We're talking about AI agents. In Episode 2 of The GIST of Govt IT, Brian and Sean sit down with Elad Schulman, CEO and co-founder of Lasso Security, to unpack what it actually takes to secure an agentic federal enterprise that seemed to arrive on the scene overnight. They dig into AI sprawl, the new attack surface created by autonomous agents, and why traditional security playbooks don't work when the system you're defending is non-deterministic. Elad shares why "intent security" is the new frontier, how agentic red teaming finds vulnerabilities a hundred humans never would, and what happens when an agent goes rogue (hint: it doesn't have to be malicious to cause real damage). Also, what it takes for innovative non-traditional vendors to actually move at the speed the federal government now demands. Finally, if you task an AI agent to keep your house clean, you better make sure to instruct it not to kill your family.

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RESOURCES MENTIONED IN THIS EPISODE

Featured Guest
- Elad Schulman, CEO & Co-Founder, Lasso Security
- Lasso Security
- Lasso Intent Security for AI Agents

OMB Memos & Executive Orders on Federal AI
- OMB M-25-21 — Accelerating Federal Use of AI through Innovation, Governance, and Public Trust
- OMB M-25-22 — Driving Efficient Acquisition of Artificial Intelligence in Government
- Executive Order 14179 — Removing Barriers to American Leadership in AI
- America's AI Action Plan

Federal AI Use Case Inventories
- 2025 Federal Agency AI Use Case Inventory (GitHub)
- Federal AI Use Case Repository (Searchable)

AI Security Frameworks & Standards
- NIST AI Risk Management Framework (AI RMF)
- OWASP Top 10 for Agentic AI
- ISO/IEC 42001 — AI Management System Standard

GIST360 Webinar

- Securing AI at Scale: Adopting Intelligent and Autonomous Zero Trust Approaches

Hosts

- Swish
- GIST360

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