This past weekend, I had the pleasure of attending an RV Expo in Worcester Massachusetts. I’m not looking for an RV, but am generally RV curious. I find the concept of an RV pretty interesting, and I have to say that walking about the expo revealed the range of designs that exist in the RV market. Different sizes, different features, slide outs, Fifth wheels, hitches, toy haulers, so much to take in at once given that I am a RV newbie. I also learned that RV manufacturers are always taking customer feedback and trying to improve their designs, as any good business does.

What was more surprising was that the majority of RVs made in the US come out of Indiana. In fact, turns out that Elkhart, Indiana is the RV capital of the wold. I’m originally from Michigan, and frankly had no idea that RVs happen in Indiana even though it is a neighboring state. Beyond basketball and corn in Indiana, there are also RVs. Who knew?

My guest today on Experience by Design is also from Indiana, Fort Wayne to be exact. Barry LaBov is the founder and CEO of LABOV Marketing and Communications, but he is much more than that. He also has authored over a dozen books, including his new book The Power of Differentiation, aimed at leaders looking to differentiate their brands and products by moving beyond a commodity mindset and showcase what makes them unique. This focus not only makes companies more attractive to customers, but also employees as it gives them a sense of purpose regarding the work they do.

We talk about his work with clients guiding them to differentiate and identify what makes them unique. We explore the vital aspects of connecting customer and employee experience, and why alignment in your experience design matters. He digs into the branding challenges in troubling times as companies try to navigate the social landscape. He describes the importance of qualitative data in understanding your customers and employees, and not waiting for the “perfect data” to present itself. He also describes his experiences as a musician, touring with the band Mark Urgent and how learning music is similar to his efforts as a marketing expert.

And of course we talk about RVs.

Barry LaBov: https://www.barrylabov.com/

LABOV: https://www.labov.com/

“The Power of Differentiation”: https://www.barrylabov.com/books