Pat Hiban of Gobundance has done what most in real estate never reach—over $1B in sales, a dominant team, and a successful transition into multifamily investing and passive income. But what stands out now isn’t what he built… it’s what he walked away from.

In this episode, Pat breaks down how he engineered a life working just 90 minutes a day, why he left commissions behind, and the simple framework he now uses to evaluate every opportunity that comes his way.

In this episode, you’ll learn:

• Why high-volume sales eventually stops being the right game
• The shift from transactional income to true “horizontal” income
• How the 2008 crash forced a complete career pivot
• Why most side hustles fail—and how to quit them fast
• The “Easy, Lucrative, Fun” filter for evaluating deals
• How Gobundance scaled into a 1,000+ member network organically

Pat’s story is a reminder that success isn’t just about building more—it’s about building better, then knowing when to step back.

If you're chasing freedom, rethinking your business model, or evaluating what’s actually worth your time, this conversation will recalibrate how you approach the next opportunity.

Contact/Links

Email - pat@hiban.com

Gobundance - https://gobundance.com

Matt King - The Ride - https://gobundance.com/theride

Chapters

00:00 Introduction to Pat Hiban

03:54 Life Updates and Work Balance

10:31 Transitioning from Real Estate Sales

15:22 Side Hustles and Lessons Learned

22:36 The Journey of Adapt Acquisitions and GoBundance

24:17 The Magic Touch in Business Ventures

25:05 Real Estate Cycles and Future Predictions

28:57 Exploring New Business Models

36:39 The Evolution of GoBundance

45:48 Connecting with Pat Hiban