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In this episode, Holly and Kelly explore what it means to define and redefine your creative identity. We talk about the ways creativity helps us grow, the blocks that sneak in, and how to give yourself permission to evolve. Whether you’re a long-time creator or just starting to explore your creative side, this conversation is for you.

In this episode, we explore:

– How to discover (and rediscover) who you are as a creative

– Why letting go is key to creative growth

– The fears that hold us back (and how to move through them)

– Our personal journeys of redefining ourselves and the podcast

– What’s next for How the Wise One Grows

🌟 BIG ANNOUNCEMENT:

We’re going into a creative cocoon! How the Wise One Grows is evolving into something new, and we’re taking the rest of the year to go deep into our creative process. We’ll be back in 2026 with a fresh new version of the podcast. 🎤 Kelly is joining as the official co-host, and together we’re reimagining the podcast with more playful conversations, more creativity, a lot more laughter, and an even more connected community.

And here’s the best part:

We want to co-create the pod with YOU!

💌 Send us your feedback, name ideas, and topics you want us to explore:

– Drop a voice memo at howthewiseonegrows.com/voicemail

– Email us at info@howthewiseonegrows.com

– DM us on IG: @howthewiseonegrows

This episode is part reflection, part celebration, and part invitation to join us in the messy, magical middle of transformation.

🌀 Whether you’re a new listener or have been here since the closet-recording days (yes, really), this is one of those core episodes you don’t want to miss.

🎧 Hit play and join us in the cocoon.

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Some relationships stay with us long after they’ve ended—and our dreams often help us make sense of that. In this episode, we reconnect with Jordan Hale, psychotherapist and host of the Psyche Magic podcast, for Part 2 of our dream series.

This conversation shows us how dreams support us through grief, endings, and the vulnerability of new beginnings. Whether you're moving through the loss of a loved one, healing from a breakup, or stepping into a new relationship, your dreams may be holding the emotions and insights your waking mind is still unfolding.

We explore:

• How dreams relate toe grief and can connect us to loved ones who have passed
• The emotional echoes of breakups and relationship shifts that arise in dreams
• What our subconscious reveals about love, longing, and release
• The meaning behind dreaming of exes, soulmates, or new connections

Jordan brings warmth and insight to this conversation, helping us explore how dreams reflect and support our emotional lives—especially in moments of change.

🌙 This episode is for you if:

• You’ve dreamed of someone you lost and wondered what it meant
• You’re moving through relationship changes or emotional healing
• You’re curious how your dreams reflect what you’re feeling inside
• You want to deepen your connection with your inner world

💭 Mentioned in this episode:

• Dreams Part 1 with Jordan Hale
• Twins & Dreaming Episode

🔗 Connect with Jordan:

• Psyche Magic Podcast

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🎙 Hosted by Holly Zajur and Kelly Eberle

💌 If this episode resonates, follow, share, or leave a review to help more dreamers find us.

Support the show

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Get the 28 Day Creative Wellness Challenge E-Workbook- Use the code KEEPCREATING for 15% off!

Work 1:1 with Holly through mentorship & coaching

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What if your dreams were more than just strange stories from the night? What if they were soul whispers—guiding you toward your deepest healing and creativity?

In this dreamy and hilariously insightful episode, Holly and Kelly sit down with psychotherapist and Psyche Magic podcast host, Jordan Hale, to explore the rich, symbolic world of dreams.

From lucid dreaming to dream journaling to decoding subconscious messages, this conversation is packed with all of the questions we have ever had about dreams and “mic drop” moments that will make you want to tuck yourself in and dream the night away.

Jordan helps us explore:

• How dreams act as a bridge between our conscious and subconscious selves
• The power of Jungian dreamwork and archetypal symbolism
• Why our dream-selves deserve just as much love and attention as our waking-selves
• Practical ways to start honoring, decoding, and working with your dreams
• How reimagining dreams as a friend can shift the way we relate to our inner world

🌙 This episode is for you if:

• You’ve ever woken up wondering “What did that mean?”
• You’re curious about dream symbols, lucid dreaming, or subconscious healing
• You want a gentle, magical nudge toward deeper self-awareness
• You’re into tarot, archetypes, and creative inspiration

🔮 Mentioned in this episode:

• Psyche Magic Podcast by Jordan Hale
• The power of starting your dream practice with awareness
• Using spiritual and cultural frameworks to explore dream symbolism
• Why emotional feelers and visual thinkers might dream differently

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Support the show

Follow @howthewiseonegrows and @hollyzajur on Instagram for more and check out more offerings online.

Join the ~*Dream Team*~ to support the podcast!

Get the 28 Day Creative Wellness Challenge E-Workbook- Use the code KEEPCREATING for 15% off!

Work 1:1 with Holly through mentorship & coaching

Join the FREE *Creative Wellness Collective* to continue the conversations we have on the podcast with fellow listeners!

Give the gift that keeps on giving-- Custom Meditations!

Episode sponsored by Connect Wellness. Connect Wellness empowers people with tools to connect with themselves, others, and the present moment.

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