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Faith rarely follows a straight line. Our story weaves two very different routes—a child searching for God without guidance and a scholar stepping away from belief—into one shared table where Shabbat blessings, community, and gratitude anchor the week. Heather recounts a turbulent upbringing, a Pentecostal grandmother’s courage, and a relentless quest that led her to Judaism, where rituals, tribe, and an Orthodox conversion finally felt like home. Alongside, Joe shares how youthful disillusionment gave way to a later-in-life return, not through sudden spiritual epiphany but through questions of identity, belonging, and the surprising resonance between science and faith.

We explore what Judaism looks like from the inside: why some rabbis turn seekers away at first, how debates over practice shape a living tradition, and why community is the heartbeat of Jewish life. From keeping a kosher home to showing up for a minyan, from assigning roles in services to hosting guests for Shabbat dinner, the practices dissolve spectator religion and foster real attachment. We also tackle misconceptions—especially the old trope that Judaism is only about rules—contrasting it with the central themes of love, forgiveness, and teshuvah that animate the High Holidays and the daily work of becoming better people.

If modern life feels unmoored, this conversation offers a sturdy thread: create small rituals, ask honest questions, and let community carry you when belief feels thin. Whether you come to faith through wonder, reason, or both, there’s room at the table. Join us as we talk candidly about marriage, meaning, and the second half of life—how gratitude keeps us centered, how synagogue life shapes our week, and how learning across traditions (yes, including The Chosen and Nobody Wants This) deepens understanding. If this resonates, subscribe, share with a friend, and leave a review to help others find the show. What practice will you start this week?

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