In this episode, John interviews Caroline about her deep obsession with true crime, cult documentaries, and survival stories, rooted in a childhood book about kidnapping and dissociation, her psychology studies, and unsettling experiences growing up in New York City. Caroline explains why cults like FLDS and Scientology fascinate her, shares her top cases (Jaycee Dugard, JonBenét Ramsey, Madeleine McCann, Amy Lynn Bradley), and argues that true crime can build awareness but also cause anxiety and overprotectiveness. They discuss the power of public “armchair detectives,” a real-life missing teen case where social sharing helped save her, and concerns about police error, cover-ups, and wrongful convictions. Caroline then dives into her current fixation—the Idaho Four—questioning details, evidence, and the plea deal while promising to keep investigating. Listen to this episode now to go down the rabbit hole with us.

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