All patients are different so it’s not always a great idea to let them know how deep and/or esoteric a session may become before they walk into the clinic. As special guest for this episode Dr Lois Nethery explains how she attempts to be wholistic and objective while recognising that a TCM practitioners special sauce will always be their subjectivity. Clare and Jack must have sometimes wondered who was interviewing who in this deeply thought provoking and sometimes magical podcast.

The guest for this episode is an acupuncturist who is commonly known as ‘the pain doctor’, Dr Rosey Lathouras. Clare and Jack probe Rosey on her areas of speciality which include the lymphatic system, detoxification, cupping and gua sha. They also cover the trials of running a clinic and issues involved in having a solid social media presence. We found Rosey to be a joy and we are sure you will too.

So you want to be an acupuncturist? Did you know that you had to learn how to run a business as well? In this episode Clare & Jack talk with Dr Michelle Smith about successfully doing both. Michelle is in the fascinating position of having been a professional marketer before she became a TCM practitioner. Michelle shares so many sparkling gems of knowledge that you may find you need to listen to it twice. What is your money metaphor? Dust storm, popcorn, button, river, or..?