Finding Purpose in the Fire – A Conversation with Blake Stinnett of Next Rung

In this powerful episode, I sit down with one of my closest friends Blake Stinnett, founder of Next Rung, to talk about his journey—both personal and professional—and the heart behind one of the most impactful organizations serving first responders today. Blake shares how his calling to support the mental, emotional, and spiritual health of firefighters led to the birth of Next Rung years ago, and how that mission has only deepened through the trials he’s faced since, including a life-altering accident.

We also dive into the unique struggles and strength found in the first responder community, the realities of burnout, and the importance of brotherhood, faith, and showing up for each other in the hard places.

Whether you’re part of the fire service, connected to someone who is, or simply looking for a story of resilience, purpose, and calling—this conversation will challenge and inspire you.

Episode 4 – Brotherhood, the Music Industry, and the Modern Church

In this episode, I sit down with one of my closest friends and creative partners, Zachary Kale. Zach isn’t just a hit songwriter and producer in Nashville—he’s the guy I talk to three times a day, hunt with, write music alongside, and believe it or not, met years ago through a Craigslist ad.

We talk about his journey to the top of the charts, our shared experiences as longtime worship leaders, and what it really looks like to stay grounded in faith and friendship while navigating the music industry. We also dig deep into the current state of the industry and the Church—what’s changing, what’s concerning, and what gives us hope.

This is more than just a conversation—it’s a look at two lives that have been intertwined through calling, creativity, and brotherhood.

Episode 3 – Why This Podcast Matters

In this episode, I’m pulling back the curtain and sharing the heart behind this podcast—why I started it, what you can expect going forward, and the kind of guests I’ll be inviting to join the conversation. Whether you’re here for inspiration, insight, or just a good story, I want this space to be valuable, real, and relevant. I’ll walk through my goals for the show, what drives me to keep going, and how I hope it will impact you as a listener. Thanks for being on this journey with me!