Dan started Hypa ten years ago selling high end spas. He left a corporate job convinced he would be a millionaire within a year. He was not. What followed was a decade of hard lessons, nearly walking away more times than he can count, becoming a dad and realising the business had to work around his son rather than the other way around, and learning that you cannot build anything worth having completely on your own. In this episode Dan talks to Natalie about what ten years of running your own business actually looks like behind the scenes. The loneliness. The pressure men carry without ever saying a word about it. Going home and putting on a brave face when you are breaking on your own. And why getting around the right people, people who will not sugarcoat it for you, changes everything. They also pay tribute to John Haines, a mentor who shaped both of their journeys and is no longer here. This part of the conversation is something else. This episode is honest, grounding, and at times quite moving. If you have ever wanted to quit, this one is for you. Please note this episode touches on men's mental health and suicide. If you or someone you know is struggling, please reach out. Topics covered: Starting Hypa and the reality of year one in business Why he tried to do everything alone and what it cost him Becoming a dad and how it completely changed his priorities The pressure men carry silently and why it rarely gets spoken about A tribute to mentor John Hanes and the legacy he left behind Why wanting to quit does not mean you should Men's mental health and why community is not optional Find Dan and Hyper in the show notes.