Michael Sodini and Kevin Berry sit down with Kami Kay Kirschbaum, founder & CEO of CIVILIAN, a bulletproof clothing brand built to blend in. From growing up with active-shooter drills to a literal dream that sparked the idea, Kami walks us through turning a wild concept into light, breathable, and stylish bulletproof apparel.

We talk Sweden vs. U.S. safety culture, why most armor looks tactical (and why hers doesn’t), the maze of financing and manufacturing, getting into SHOT Show as a newcomer, and landing key partnerships, including a consumer launch with Guns.com. We also hit legality basics, women-specific armor design, and why “don’t scare people, make them feel prepared” drives CIVILIAN’s brand.

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Mike and J. Hood welcome Ryan and Nate from The King of Camo, the North Georgia custom shop and YouTube duo known for turning real counter moments into laugh-out-loud shorts that still teach safety. They share how a near-fatal motorcycle crash, a hard reset on alcohol, and honest conversations reshaped their lives, their business, and their channel. The crew digs into what “welcoming gun culture” looks like in practice, why some sales get a respectful “not today,” and how humor can open the door to real talk about responsibility, masculinity, and mental fitness.

You’ll hear:
• The shop origin story, YouTube growth, and why authenticity matters
• How sobriety, family, and faith fuel better decisions
• Practical lines they draw with customers and why that protects the community
• The purpose of pain, asking for help, and separating rights from readiness
• Their charity motorcycle rides and why service helps heal

Take a free, anonymous mental health screening at WalkTheTalkAmerica.org. Lock up your firearms, not your feelings. If you enjoy the show, follow The King of Camo and share this episode with a friend who needs an encouraging nudge.

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Join hosts Michael Sodini and Kevin Berry as they welcome Keith Bombaugh of B.O.S. Lock to the show. What began as a family-driven need for safer firearm storage has grown into a groundbreaking product designed for speed, reliability, and peace of mind. From technical details and real-world testing to the bigger conversation about responsibility and mental health, this episode explores how innovation can transform safety in the firearms industry.

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