In preparation to introduce Season 3, Tamatha and Chelsea bridge the liminal space between, with a snapshot of where they are on this life-death-legacy continuum, now, and what kinds of legacy thoughts this time is eliciting.

Big announcements, big updates, and as always, big reasons to let this conversation open doors of its own in your life, with people who matter most to you.

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In this heartfelt conclusion to Season 2, Tamatha and Chelsea reflect on the journey of the past nine episodes—and the life season they’ve gotten to walk alongside you.

With honesty, giggles and a few tears, they open up about where their conversations on mortality have led them, how Tamatha’s cancer and Chelsea’s hopes of starting a family shape their present, and what it means to carry legacy forward.

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In this episode, Tamatha & Chelsea are in deep and meaningful conversation with Carla Fernandez about what it takes to grieve well in a society that refuses to make eye contact with someone in the thick of it.

Carla is the author of Renegade Grief: A Guide To The Wild Ride of Life After Loss (Simon & Schuster) and co-founder of The Dinner Party, an organization connecting young adult grievers to peers over community dinners that normalize grieving through honest conversations with others who get it.

You can expect to hear:

• What it means to be renegade griever

• How the curiosity in Carla’s early grief gave way to a powerful counterculture

• A moment of connection between Tamatha and Carla’s late father, Jose

• The dire need for not just greater grief literacy but grief allyship, from the group text to the workplace to Capitol Hill

• Some profanity (oops) because WTF is with people being so weird about loss?!

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More about Renegade Grief, The Dinner Party & Carla at-large:

• Pick up a copy of the book, for you or someone in your life that needs it, here, or anywhere you get your books!

• Find a stop on the Renegade Grief Roadshow, perhaps in a city near you, here

• Request a seat at the table with The Dinner Party, or make a donation to ensure there’s a seat for everyone, here

• Connect with Carla on Instagram @carlitafernandez

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If our legacy is a sum of all our parts, then that includes our biggest and brightest ideas…our beliefs, and how we piece them together.

In this episode, Tamatha and Chelsea open the floor to listeners to share their ideas on what happens after life.

What happens to a person after they die? Is it the end? If not, then what?

Tune in to explore the source of some of these vivid and inspiring beliefs about what happens after we die, and most importantly, their implications on living, now.

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In this episode, Chelsea and Tamatha are joined by four very special others who’ve never been in conversation together before – for a collective, existential dive into our own belonging, and how that informs what we extend to others.

In our shared exploration ofthe role belonging plays in legacy,we’ll answer questions like:

• Where/what do youcome from?

• Where/when do you feel like youbelong?

• How do heritage and belonging inform and impact how you contribute to the world?

Featuring: Harrison Nir, Colleen Ovelman, Clover Stieve and Karen Webster

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In this workshop-style episode, Tamatha and Chelsea take you through a sensory activity meant to offer a fresh perspective on how taking time to imagine the elements of your good death hands off to a better life and clearer legacy.

It’s an invitation to dream of your dying - the moment that connects your living to your living on - in rich, vivid color for the benefit of enhancing your living, now. Especially impactful for listeners seeking personal growth, legacy planning, or deeper introspection about life and death.

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In this heartfelt episode, dedicated to Chelsea’s dad, Tamatha and Chelsea discuss the complex emotional experience of caring for an aging parent – or really, anyone you love.

They travel through themes like:

• What it feels like to care for someone who is no longer who you always knew them to be

• Living fully vs. being alive

• How legacies can become intertwined

• The art of finding and noticing joy inside what IS

• And love, at the heart of it all

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Tamatha and Chelsea are joined by Merle Saferstein, Legacy Educator, Author, and perhaps most importantly, Grandy’s mentor. Together, they explore living (and remembering) with intention, and the different lenses through which people assign meaning to their lives.

With powerful anecdotes and introspective questions, this episode invites listeners to rethink their relationship with life and legacy.

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You can learn more about Merle at merlersaferstein.com and by check out her new book, “Wisdom of the Century” at wisdomofthecentury.com

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