Connor Grossman and Kerry Crowley return to unpack their October vacation plans. Since the Rafael Devers trade, the Giants haven’t just struggled—they’ve scored the fewest runs in baseball. It’s been a bizarre, frustrating stretch filled with bad defense and even worse hitting.

They also debut the MelvinMeter™️ and dare to bring up Bruce Bochy.

Plus:
— The growing gap between the Giants and the Dodgers and Padres (5:04)
— Examining the shockingly bad numbers since the Devers trade (10:28)
— Do you really believe in the farm system? (20:05)
— Which players are worth keeping outside the core? (27:00)
— Is Melvin leaving starters in too long? (39:53)
— MelvinMeter, Hallberg buzz, and Bochy whispers (44:35)

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Connor Grossman and Kerry Crowley try to make sense of the Giants’ freefall, as they lose 13 of 14 at home for the first time since the team moved to San Francisco. From lifeless losses to confusing comments from players and coaches, this stretch has fans (and hosts) wondering: what is this team, really?

They also get into:
— How angry should you be right now? (18:09)
— The Giants say they don't have any answers (25:23)
— Did the Giants ever have an identity? (33:21)
— How to build an Oracle Park-proof roster (53:05)

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Connor Grossman and Kerry Crowley dive into the Giants' existence as a .500 team. Perfectly average, almost always, for the better part of a decade. So what’s really keeping the San Francisco Giants stuck in place?

They talk about how the team got here (again), what it means for the future, and the possible path out. Plus, fallout from the trade deadline, bullpen uncertainty, and whether top prospect Bryce Eldridge should get the call.

Also in this episode:
— A rant about rinse, repeat, .500 (6:51)
— The Giants' miserable track record of first-round picks (15:52)
— How do the Giants replace what they lost at the trade deadline? (34:30)
— The bullpen bridge to Randy—can it be rebuilt? (34:55)
— Will Buster Posey's major league debut influence how when he decided to call up Bryce Eldridge? (49:00)

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