We played a couple incredible shows in Saskatchewan two weeks ago and it already feels like a lifetime. When we don't play a show for a while we forget what it feels like to actually be a band - posting content and living online just doesn't cut it.

So today we discussed:

• ways to hold on to the joy we feel from playing live
• an exercise to try next weekend when we play a biker fest in Durham, ON on July 25
• the nature of ego, why we crave attention and connection, and whether that is good/bad/both

Also the episode starts, like most, with Vanessa being extremely annoyed with David for absolutely no reason. Enjoy!

Our friend Elise Roller from Misfit Music Management insists that we are sitting in a gold mine with this podcast and that it can be the secret to finding success in building an audience for our band. Is she right?!

Our first task towards finding out was answering a bunch of questions for her, so naturally we thought “let’s make an episode out of it!”

We discuss:

• ​What we think makes our podcast and band stand out from all the rest
• ​What other podcasts would our listeners like
• ​What content strategies do and don’t worth for us
• ​How much should we emphasize being exes in a band as a marketing point

We also randomly realize our new song is being played on the radio (94.9 The Rock in Oshawa, Ontario) literally minutes before ending the episode, and tune in live in time to hear the legend John Angus from The Trews introducing it with some very kind words!!

We started our band Goodnight Sunrise 15 years ago, and recently we've been debating a big question: at what point do we hit the reset button and start fresh under a new band name?

Vanessa thinks everyone in the Canadian music industry has heard about us and already made up their mind. David thinks nothing will be that different if we just change our band name without changing our live show and genre.

So we recorded a very honest episode debating:

• where we're at in our career
• the state of the music industry broadly
• the realities of being in an independent band
• why branding/marketing is more important than the music
• being jealous of our friends
• the difference between earning success and feeling entitled to it
• should we move to Germany?
• and ultimately: should we change our band name?