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In this episode, 24-year-old agency founder Andy Milligan reveals why he ditched WordPress, built 30+ sites on Webflow + Framer, and publicly tracks every dollar of revenue. 
🔗 Connect with Andy Milligan:
Website: https://www.mmgdesign.net
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/mindulmilligan
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mindfulmilligan
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mmgdesign
X: https://x.com/mmg__design
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@mmgdesign
🔗 Connect with Mark Szymanski:
Website: https://markszymanski.co
Facebook: https://mjs.link/FB
Instagram: https://mjs.link/IG
LinkedIn: https://mjs.link/LI
X: https://mjs.link/X
YouTube: https://mjs.link/YT
About the show:
Fueled By Progress is a podcast about candid conversations with builders, creators, and curious people—focused on decisions, disciplines, and stories that move us forward.
If you’re new here, welcome. If you’ve been here since episodes recorded in my car—thank you. We’re still just getting warmed up 💪
Host --- Mark Szymanski: https://markszymanski.co/links
Video/Audio Production --- Nathaniel DeHaven: https://elevatedmultimedia.com
Sponsor --- NitroPack: Get 10% off with code "MJS" at https://mjs.link/NitroPack
Chapters:
0:00 - Intro
0:43 - Meet Andy Milligan: 24-Year-Old Making $10K+/mo (Golf Pro → Web Agency)
6:35 - From Scratch Golfer to Eating Disorder Recovery (Raw Story)
15:51 - How Personal Training & Golf Lessons Became His First Business
21:47 - Instagram Reels → $40/hr Golf Lessons (Early Hustle Exposed)
26:21 - NitroPack Ad: Make Your Site Blazing Fast (Use Code MJS for 10% Off)
27:20 - Why Daily YouTube Shorts = Therapy + Lead Gen Gold
31:26 - Identity Lags Reality: “I Still Wake Up Like the Kid Who Got Laid Off”
35:56 - Discipline = Where Your Calendar Is (Not Motivation)
44:55 - Painful Feedback = Probably True (Family vs. Internet Trolls)
50:00 - Whole Foods Diet: Meat, Eggs, Fruit, 5lbs of Potatoes (Mark’s Catalyst)
1:12:38 - Discipline Is NOT Blanket — It’s Pillar-Based
1:26:54 - Balancing Deep Relationships vs. Shallow Founder Network
1:34:39 - WordPress vs. Webflow/Framer: The REAL Builder War (No BS)
1:40:02 - “You Have to Code PHP to Customize WordPress” — Andy’s Old Myth
1:47:30 - Why Gen Z Designers Flock to Framer & AI Tools (And Fail)
1:53:31 - “Clients Don’t Care About the Tool — They Care About Leads”
1:58:24 - Don’t Switch Platforms If You’re Making Money (Mark’s Warning)
2:01:41 - Final Verdict: Tool Debates Are for Technicians, Not Founders
2:02:00 - Where to Find Andy (Agency, Podcast, LinkedIn)