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Forget Everything You Know About Being a CEO: A Conversation with Krystal Zell

[S2.E12]


What happens when a Fortune 500 executive walks away from the "all-consuming" pace of corporate leadership to find a different path?

In this episode of the (un)conversations podcast, host Dr. Alison Schmidt sits down with Krystal Zell, Executive Vice President and Chief Customer Officer at Floor & Decor, for a raw look at what it truly takes to lead. From her rise at The Home Depot to navigating a $130M turnaround as CEO of Tonal, Krystal shares the leadership lessons she had to "un-learn" along the way.


In this episode, we explore:

  • The "One-Way Door" Philosophy: Mastering high-stakes, irreversible decision-making.

  • Navigating Executive Burnout: Identifying the "dense fog" before you reach a breaking point.

  • The CEO Sabbatical: Why Krystal took a year off at age 47 to reset for her next 20 years of leadership.

  • C-Level Transitions: How Krystal Zell Navigated Home Depot, Tonal, and Floor & Decor.


Episode Chapters:

(00:00) Forget Everything You Know About Being a CEO

(01:31) Meet Krystal Zell: From Floor & Decor to Tonal

(03:00) The (UN)word Effect: Using AI to find your leadership identity

(05:03) (Un)deterred: Lessons from a blue-collar upbringing

(19:24) (Un)assuming: Fashion emergencies and C-Suite branding

(28:56) Leaving Home Depot: Knowing when it’s time for a new problem

(37:59) The Tonal Opportunity: Managing a $130M strategic turnaround

(54:30) Identifying the "Dense Fog" of Burnout

(01:00:03) Why every leader needs a Career Sabbatical

(01:08:52) The (Un)expected joy of teaching AP Economics(

01:11:48) Ask Dr. Alison: Krystal Zell flips the script

(01:15:13) The (un)wrap: Showing the human side of business


Connect with our Guest:Krystal Zell is the EVP & Chief Customer Officer at Floor & Decor and the former CEO of Tonal.

LinkedIn: ⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/krystalzell/⁠

Floor & Decor: https://www.flooranddecor.com/

Connect with Dr. Alison:Dr. Alison Schmidt is the CEO of Unconvention, advising leaders on the unseen dynamics of high-stakes leadership.

Website: https://www.unconventionllc.com/messageus

LinkedIn: ⁠linkedin.com/in/alison-l-schmidt-phd-bcc/

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dralisonschmidt/

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theunconversationspodcast

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#Leadership #CEO #KrystalZell #Burnout #ExecutiveCoaching #Sabbatical #Tonal #FloorAndDecor #unconversationspodcast


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