The formula for elite running performance lies in the consistent application of stress and recovery - repeatable things that you can sustain over time.

Cliff Pittman serves as the Coaching Development Director for CTS, where he leads the Ultrarunning and Cycling Coaching staff. With a deep passion for ultrarunning and a commitment to excellence, Cliff specializes in coaching athletes at all levels—from beginners to elite runners.

Jon chats with Cliff about:

• stress and recovery fundamentals

• minimum effective dose for training adaptations

• subjective feedback vs. objective data analysis

• training specificity for race demands and terrain

• how to manage life stress as part of your training load

Stay connected:

Follow Cliff:

www.instagram.com/coachcliffpittman

This episode is supported by:

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When pro ultrarunner Hayden Hawks faces challenging conditions on the trails, he doesn't just endure them—he transforms them into opportunities for growth, proving that sometimes the hardest moments forge the strongest athletes.

Hayden Hawks has been a professional ultra runner for 10 years competing at and winning some of the biggest races in the world. He is sponsored by HOKA, AG1, Precision Fuel and Hydration, as well as many other sponsors. He has also been a huge advocate for helping and building youth group initiatives and inspiring the younger generation around the world, most notably the Trail Fam. Hayden is also a coach with Hawks Running and Centurion Running. He is a father of 2, husband to Ashley Hawks, and loves traveling with his family and being outside as much as possible.

Jon chats with Hayden about:

• balancing competition with being a good person and giving back

• gradual training progression instead of extreme volume jumps

• fueling runs over 90 minutes for better performance

• mental toughness through embracing uncomfortable mountain conditions

• consistency over time creates sustainable athletic careers

Stay Connected:

Follow Hayden:

https://www.instagram.com/hawks_hayden/

“Hayden Hawks” on Strava

https://trailfam.com/

https://www.hawksrunning.com/

This episode is supported by:

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Boulderthon: Our favorite Colorado race event with a variety of distances. Use code FTLR2026 for $20 off the marathon or half marathon when you register at www.boulderthon.org.

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Vacation Races Run where you play and chase the extraordinary. Use code “FTLR” for 15% off their half marathons, ultras, and trail fests at vacationraces.com through the end of 2026

Legendary ultra-marathoner Pam Reed has a simple solution for people who feel tired: stop sitting and start moving.

Pam Reed is an accomplished ultra-runner who has been competing since 1992. She is a hyperactive person who strives to get every moment out of every day, structuring her schedule as full as possible because she considers time the most valuable asset.

Beyond racing, Reed directed the Tucson Marathon for 30 years before passing it to Jamil, believing that successful race directors must be hands-on and understand every aspect of event management. She continues racing with a full 2026 schedule and maintains her philosophy of maximizing each day while gradually accepting that recovery takes longer as she ages.

Jon chats with Pam about:

• ultra-running discovery through tennis training and progression

• natural energy and ability to bounce back quickly

• heat and cold training strategies with specific tips

• Triple Crown achievement: Western States, Hard Rock, Badwater

• her winning mental approach

Stay connected:

Follow Pam:

https://www.instagram.com/pamreed100/

This is episode is supported by:

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Precision Dial your fueling in this year. Use code “LONGRUN26” for 15% off your first order at www.precisionhydration.com

AmazFit Check out the T-Rex 3 and a selection of GPS watches at https://us.amazfit.com/discount/FTLR2026 and use code “FTLR2026” for 10% off.