Five years ago, Kristin Hancock sat in a hotel room in Chicago the night before the very first Camp

ICology convinced it was a failure. Twelve people had signed up. She’d wanted thirty.

That event turned out to be magic.

In this Between the Seasons episode, hosts Pinaki Kathiari and Chris Lee are joined by Chuck Gose

and Kristin Hancock, the co-founders of ICology, to mark five years of building what’s become one

of internal communications’ most genuinely human communities. Chuck started ICology as a podcast

back in 2015 looking for new voices in internal comms. Kristin built the community that surrounds it.

Together, they’ve created something that doesn’t look or feel like anything else in the profession.

The conversation covers the real story of building ICology — the individual outreach, the events

that nearly didn’t happen, the moment success looked exactly like failure, and why Chuck says you

should take it personally when people don’t show up (and why that’s actually good advice).

They also talk about what’s next: the EX Factor Summit, a new pre-conference mini-summit at

Transform 2026 in Las Vegas designed to bring internal communicators into the employee experience

conversation in a more hands-on, problem-solving way. And yes, Busta Rhymes is involved.

In this episode, they discuss:

• What Kristin and Chuck each brought to ICology — and why both were necessary

• Why building community is harder than it looks (and lonelier than you’d expect)

• The lesson from 12 people in a room that felt like failure until it didn’t

• Why Chuck says to take it personally when people don’t engage

• How individualism gets in the way of community — inside and outside of work

• Why internal comms needs to stop asking for a seat at the table and start building one

• What the EX Factor Summit is, and what attendees will walk away with

If you’re attending Transform 2026 in Vegas, the EX Factor Summit is happening this month.

Chuck Gose: LinkedIn

Kristin Hancock: LinkedIn

ICology: joinicology.com — use code ICLOVE for $50 off your first year

EX Factor Summit at Transform 2026: Register Here

Frequency Podcast (Chuck Gose & Jenni Field): Listen Here

Friends of Indy Animals (Indianapolis): Learn More

Connect with Us

Pinaki Kathiari – LinkedIn | Local Wisdom

Chris Lee – LinkedIn | Gallagher Communication

Bree Bartos – LinkedIn | Local Wisdom

Special thanks to digital communication agency Local Wisdom (www.localwisdom.com) for really believing in our mission and making this podcast possible.

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