Episode lucky number 13. In the third part of a series on consciousness and free will, Brian and Mike talk about the nature of consciousness (just like the intro says!), thinking about thinking, and about how most of the things we think we know can't be proven beyond our own experience.

In this episode we mention the following:

What is it like to be a bat? - Thomas Nagel https://www.amazon.com/What-Like-Bat-Thomas-Nagel-ebook/dp/B0CYGZT4HM/

Natural scene reconstruction from fMRI signals using generative latent diffusion https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-023-42891-8

The Matrix https://www.amazon.com/Matrix-4-Film-Collection-Blu-ray-Digital/dp/B09R26TLNY

Mathematical proof debunks the idea that the universe is a computer simulation https://phys.org/news/2025-10-mathematical-proof-debunks-idea-universe.html

Gabriel Knight: Sins of the Father https://store.steampowered.com/app/495700/Gabriel_Knight_Sins_of_the_Father/

Holy Blood, Holy Grail: The Secret History of Christ. The Shocking Legacy of the Grail - Michael Baigent https://www.amazon.com/dp/0385338457/

Dan Brown - The Secret of Secrets https://www.amazon.com/Secret-Secrets-Novel-Robert-Langdon-ebook/dp/B0DTT5LV77

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