Gordon Showell-Rogers interviews Ville, a Finnish Christian attorney with a 20-year solo practice focused on immigration alongside criminal and family law, meeting him at a European gathering on forced displacement. Ville explains how volunteering with Iraqi refugees in the early 1990s led him to study law and build a largely word-of-mouth immigrant clientele, including many Hindus and Muslims, and he describes helping register a Hindu temple and the mutual respect this can foster. He recounts challenges in asylum cases involving converts to Christianity, outlining how he prepares clients and witnesses and noting the complexity of assessing risk in countries like Iran and Iraq; he estimates about 20% of his convert clients are ultimately sent back. Ville shares memorable criminal cases, including a bungled bank robbery and defending a Rwandan genocide suspect, discusses how he processes disturbing testimony, and reflects on threats and domestic violence, including harassment from ex-husbands, sometimes from Christian backgrounds.

00:54 Reconnecting in Europe
01:40 Life as an Attorney
02:31 Refugee Roots and Calling
03:28 Law School in Lapland
05:01 Starting a Solo Practice
06:09 Immigration Law Perks
07:22 Faith and Interfaith Respect
09:41 Word of Mouth Clients
11:05 Courtroom Stories and Crime
14:19 Proving Genuine Conversion
17:02 Culture and Christian Questions
17:46 Church Witness Checks
18:04 Iran Risk Reality
19:57 Iraq Family Persecution
21:02 Who Gets Sent Back
22:46 Wild Criminal Clients
23:26 Rwanda Genocide Case
25:45 Coping With Darkness
29:01 Defending The Unliked
31:08 Rapture House Will
32:30 Church Abuse Warnings
35:18 Closing Reflections

Paulo Feniman, a Brazilian leader with Africa Inland Mission (AIM), describes his transition from 26 years serving AIM Brazil/South America—20 as executive director focused on mobilizing churches to send missionaries—to becoming AIM International’s collaboration director, building connections with the African church and mission movement. He recounts an early calling to mission and pastoral ministry shaped by local service, later using his marketing/media background in mission communications. Feniman explains COMIBAM as a Latin American mission movement launched with a 1987 São Paulo congress that reframed the region as a “mission force,” leading to major growth, including about 35,000 cross-cultural missionaries (22,000 from Brazil), many among unreached peoples and Muslim contexts. He emphasizes partnership—setting aside “ego and logo”—training through collaboration, perseverance amid economic challenges, and the Great Commission as a privilege for the whole church.

01:29 Meet Paulo Feniman
02:00 AIM Brazil to Global Role
02:52 Called Into Missions
04:29 Leadership Shift and Pandemic
06:38 Passions Mobilization Partnership
08:16 Teenage Calling and Mentors
11:20 Design Career Back to Mission
13:01 COMIBAM Origins and Growth
15:53 Latin America Mission Stats
16:13 Collaboration Principles
18:56 Unity Takes Effort
20:55 Humility In Teamwork
21:52 Training Through Partnerships
23:28 Redefining True Riches
25:02 Called To Connect Others
28:02 Prayer Card Breakthrough
31:27 Latino Missions Perseverance
35:43 Capacity And Heart Check
37:23 Great Commission Invitation
40:05 Final Thanks And Blessing

In Nairobi, Gordon interviews Andy Mburu, leader of Litmus Africa, about engaging Africa’s overwhelmingly young population and why many churches struggle to connect with Gen Z, who face countless information sources and often question the Bible’s authority. Andy explains that in shame-honor cultures, questioning can be seen as rebellion, leaving issues like sexuality, gender identity, and whether Christianity is “good news” for Black Africans—amid renewed interest in ancestral practices—largely unaddressed in church. Litmus creates spaces for apologetics and critical thinking, welcoming questions and emphasizing that truth is ultimately a person, Jesus. Andy shares examples, his own journey after his first wife Priscilla died in a traffic accident soon after their wedding, his training at the Oxford Centre for Christian Apologetics, reflections on the Ravi Zacharias scandal, and his hope to equip Kenyan youth as “undercover missionaries,” especially those studying abroad.

01:33 Meet Andy Mburu
02:01 Swahili Youth Greetings
03:22 Africa Is Young
06:00 Gen Z Worldview Shift
07:25 Questions Seen As Rebellion
10:51 Why Litmus Exists
14:05 Truth Is A Person
15:34 Real Questions Teens Ask
18:59 Faith And African Identity
23:22 Called Into Ministry
24:39 Accident Details
26:02 Was It Gods Will
27:58 Pain Suffering Questions
28:47 Discovering Apologetics
30:44 Training At Oxford
32:39 Ravi Scandal Fallout
35:09 Truth And Coverups
36:52 Comforting Victims
38:37 Grief Ten Years Later
42:24 Hope For Kenyan Youth
44:21 Undercover Missionaries
47:09 Final Thanks Farewell