In this episode of Hard Refresh, hosts Caden Hutchens and Karina Neff sit down with David Lee, longtime industry leader and entrepreneur, for a conversation that spans faith, family,technology, and the business lessons only decades in the field can teach.

From building teams and avoiding “monsters” in softwaredevelopment to reframing what AI really means, David brings a wisdom-first perspective that challenges leaders to think beyond short-term gains and build with purpose.

In This Episode:

🔹 Quick Control:

• Don’t miss the VEO Conference later this month: https://veoconference.com/veo-conference-site
• Watch for registration for CLX in Las Vegas
• Catch last week’s episode: Trusting the Data with Tim Moriarty (Ep. 25)

🔹 Clear Cache:

• Two Truths & a Lie: buying a brand-new home at 18, skiingin Hawaii, and getting a friend’s daughter on the 40-yard line at a New OrleansSaints game to sing the National Anthem
• God, family, and work as an integrated life model
• The dangers of overbuilding tech and creating “monsters” no one can use
• Why AI is less about artificial intelligence and more aboutartificial influence
• Lessons from decades of leadership in cleaning and software
• Serving people with excellence, not chasing money as the end goal
• Why timeless principles still guide the future of innovation

💡 “AI doesn’t stand for artificial intelligence. It stands for artificial influence—because true intelligence comes from a creator.”

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Connect with the Hosts & Guest:
Caden Hutchens – https://www.linkedin.com/in/caden-hutchens/
Karina Neff – https://www.linkedin.com/in/karina-neff-01b0782a/
David Lee – https://www.linkedin.com/in/david-lee-43840612/

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