In Episode 175 we share part two of our enlightening discussion with Bishop Chris Green. This episode covers significant topics such as understanding trauma, the role of suffering in life, and the differences between tenderness and vulnerability. Chris provides profound insights into how one's view of God affects their emotional responses and emphasizes the importance of leaning into our humanity and finite nature. The episode also underscores the importance of embracing one's unique way of experiencing God, whether as a 'sea' or a 'cup,' and finding peace within that framework.

Additionally, we highlight the Understanding Trauma course available at Immanuelinstitute.com.

00:00 Introduction to the Face-to-Face Podcast

00:33 Episode 175: Part Two with Bishop Chris Green

01:00 Understanding Trauma Course Announcement

01:53 Diving Back into the Conversation with Chris Green

02:00 Theology and Tenderness: A Deep Dive

11:02 The Role of Suffering in the Christian Life

18:37 The Illusion of Control and Embracing Weakness

26:05 Healing, Isolation, and Theological Anchoring

32:47 Final Thoughts and Benediction

38:58 Closing Remarks and Upcoming Content

Welcome to episode 174 of the Face to Face Podcast, hosted by Melinda Wilson and Cathy Little.

We are excited to share with you an in-depth conversation with theologian and professor Chris Green, discussing the interplay between theology and everyday life. Chris Green shares his journey into theology, influenced by scholars like Stanley Hauerwas and Robert Jensen. Our discussion shifts to the role of theology in daily life and the importance of aligning head knowledge with heart experience. Chris also delves into his latest book, 'All Life Comes From Tenderness,' exploring the necessity of sensitivity and tenderness for a fulfilling faith and life. The episode concludes with a teaser for part two and appreciation for the listeners. Tune in for an enriching dialogue on living with authenticity and understanding through theology.

0:03 - Introduction and Welcome

0:54 - Announcements and Updates

3:02 - Introducing Chris Green

3:59 - Chris Green's Journey into Theology

10:25 - The Role of Theology in Daily Life

14:47 - Constructive and Public Theology

24:47 - The Importance of Tenderness

51:15 - Conclusion and Next Episode Teaser

In this episode of the Face to Face Podcast, we continue our insightful discussion with Dr. Baxter Kruger. We explore the significance of union with Jesus, practical ways it manifests in daily life, and how to recognize Jesus' presence in everyday actions. Our conversation also highlights upcoming events and courses from the Immanuel Institute that delve deeper into cultivating a closer relationship with Jesus. Dr. Kruger shares profound stories and joyful revelations, emphasizing the importance of embracing one's inherent connection with Jesus and viewing life through the lens of this union.

00:00 Introduction to the Face to Face Podcast

00:28 Upcoming Events and Announcements

02:35 Introduction to Dr. Baxter Kruger

02:45 Understanding Union with Jesus

04:07 Practical Examples of Union

05:04 Jesus' Presence in Daily Life

07:53 The Role of Faith and Delusion

13:57 The True Gospel and Identity

14:22 Jesus' Teachings and Miracles

18:20 The Simplicity of Walking with Jesus

23:03 Final Thoughts and Homework

24:11 Understanding Darkness and Light

24:37 Baby Steps and Love

25:07 Creativity and Divine Gifts

25:37 The Journey of Awakening

27:21 Union and Non-Duality

29:32 Hearing God's Voice

31:02 Facing Pain and Finding Jesus

36:03 The Power of the Gospel

42:13 Resources and Recommendations

46:04 Final Thoughts and Gratitude

Join us for an intriguing conversation with theologian, Dr. Baxter Kruger as he delves into theological discussions about the nature of God's love, the significance of the Trinity, and the purpose of creation. He challenges traditional Western Christian doctrines, advocating for a more beautiful gospel centered on love and unity with God. The episode encourages listeners to re-examine their beliefs and embrace a more profound relationship with the Divine

00:00 - 02:14: Introduction and current travels 02:15 - 06:33: Upcoming Immanuel Approach training details 06:34 - 07:40: Background on guest Baxter Kruger 07:41 - 12:00: Kruger's theological discussion on the Trinity and nature of God 12:01 - 16:30: Significance of God's love and purpose of creation 16:31 - 23:49: Jesus' actions and divine submission during the crucifixion 23:50 - 35:12: Interpretation of biblical passages and deeper theological insights 35:13 - 44:30: Faith, repentance, and knowing God intimately 44:31 - 52:45: Challenges to traditional Western Christian doctrines 52:46 - 1:09:10: Experiencing and describing God's love in everyday life 1:09:11 - 1:20:00: Final reflections and invitation to re-listen

Join us for a powerful episode of the Face to Face Podcast as we sit down with Dr. Margaret Nagib, a clinical psychologist with over 20 years of experience, to explore the integration of faith, psychology, and nervous system healing. Discover how trauma responses shape our lives, why nervous system regulation is foundational for emotional and spiritual health, and practical steps for moving from survival to wholeness.

Timestamps:

00:00 – Welcome & Introduction
00:29 – Broadcasting from Lake Tahoe & Upcoming Courses
02:38 – Introducing Dr. Margaret Nagib
03:22 – Dr. Margaret's Background: Integrating Faith & Psychology
05:42 – The Evolution of Christian Psychology & Inner Healing
09:35 – Mind, Body, Spirit Integration Explained
13:22 – The Role of the Nervous System in Healing
18:23 – Why Nervous System Work is Trending
21:14 – Understanding Trauma Responses: Fight, Flight, Freeze, Fawn
24:11 – Real-Life Examples: People-Pleasing & Fawn Response
27:00 – How to Recognize and Shift Out of Trauma Responses
31:00 – Practical Tools for Regulation & Completing the Stress Cycle
35:00 – Recognizing Long-Term Patterns & Building Capacity
39:00 – The Foundation of Nervous System Work

Key Topics:

• The integration of faith and psychology in healing
• How trauma responses (fight, flight, freeze, fawn) show up in daily life
• The importance of nervous system regulation for lasting change
• Practical tools for recognizing and shifting out of survival states
• Dr. Margaret's personal journey and resources

Connect with Dr. Margaret Nagib:
Instagram: @margaretnagib
Website: thedunamisproject.org

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In this episode, we continue our conversation with Suhail Stephen, exploring how the Enneagram can deepen spiritual formation and self-understanding. We discuss the Enneagram's origins, its nine personality types, and how it helps us recognize both our strengths and areas for growth.

Suhail shares personal insights and practical ways the Enneagram can foster compassion, freedom, and more authentic relationships—with God, others, and ourselves.

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00:00 - Welcome & Introduction
00:29 - Show Begins, Guest Introduction
00:55 - Announcements: Dash Away & Trauma Course
01:41 - Transition to Enneagram Topic
01:52 - Suhail on Spirituality & Enneagram
02:14 - Cathy's Enneagram Story
02:58 - Suhail: Enneagram's Impact & History
05:19 - Christian Perspective on Enneagram
08:00 - Suhail's Personal Enneagram Experience
10:32 - Triads & Undercurrents Explained
13:37 - Cathy & Melinda Discuss Their Types
15:13 - Suhail: What the Numbers Mean
16:58 - Triads: Shame, Anxiety, Frustration
18:45 - Compulsions & Avoidances
19:41 - Melinda: Resistance to Labels
21:47 - Suhail: Why Use "Undercurrent" & "Compulsion"
23:28 - Melinda & Cathy's Types Explored
24:39 - Cathy's Leadership & Independence
27:50 - Why Self-Awareness Matters
29:03 - Enneagram for Relationships
31:56 - Final Thoughts & Resources
34:15 - Where to Find Suhail
34:58 - Enneagram: Affirming the Good
35:54 - Closing Remarks
36:07 - Outro & Call to Action
36:27 - End

In this episode of the Face to Face podcast, we engage in a profound conversation with Suhail Stephen, a spiritual director from Manitoba, Canada. We delve into Suhail's multicultural upbringing, his journey into spiritual direction, and the significance of the contemplative Christian tradition. We also discuss practical steps like the Daily Examen and the role of a spiritual director in deepening one's spiritual experience. Suhail shares his personal experiences and insights, making this episode a valuable resource for anyone interested in authentic spiritual growth and connection with God.

00:28 Exciting Announcements and Upcoming Events

01:50 Meet Our Special Guest: Suhail Stephen

06:30 Suhail's Journey and Cultural Experiences

12:54 Exploring Spirituality Across Cultures

22:45 The Path to Spiritual Direction

24:49 Understanding Spiritual Direction

26:02 Personal Journey with God

27:52 First Encounter with Spiritual Direction

28:52 Discovering the Call to Spiritual Direction

30:39 Training and Becoming a Spiritual Director

37:02 The Contemplative Tradition

46:40 Practical Steps for Spiritual Growth

50:22 Conclusion and Final Thoughts

In Part 2 with Jessie Cruickshank, we discuss deeper connections and meaningful relationships through the lens of Identity Formation Theory. Our conversation covers various phases of human and spiritual development from infancy to adulthood, highlighting how our understanding of ourselves and God evolves.

You will be invited to explore phases of growth, the importance of autobiographical memory, and the concept of deconstruction in faith. This rich discussion provides insights for anyone interested in emotional and spiritual maturity.

Learn more at whoology.co.

00:00 Introduction and Welcome

00:28 Upcoming Events and Opportunities

01:03 Immanuel Institute Programs

01:35 Understanding Trauma Course

02:28 Identity Formation Theory: Phases 0 to 1

04:13 Identity Formation Theory: Phase 2

08:57 Identity Formation Theory: Phase 3

13:08 Deconstruction and Faith Transitions

20:15 Phase 4: Owning Your Faith

23:18 Organizational Dynamics and Faith

30:15 Phase 5: The Dark Night of the Soul

40:08 Petty Doctrinal Issues in Modern Faith

40:31 Understanding Phase Five in Spiritual Growth

42:27 The Role of Community in Faith Transitions

43:20 Elder Stage and Teaching Teenagers

44:40 Navigating Spiritual Direction Schools

46:26 Fear and Control in Religion

48:22 Creating Safe Spaces for Questions

50:51 The Journey of Identity Formation

59:53 Final Thoughts and Encouragement

01:04:54 Autobiographical vs. Semantic Memory