In this episode, Debi Barr joins me to discuss her book The Call of the Sacred Rebel and the path that led her to write it.

We talk about how the book evolved over time—from early ideas during her corporate career to a later shift toward questioning expectations and choosing a different way of living.

We begin with her earlier work on Reiki, where she shares her perspective that it’s not something you simply do, but something you live. That distinction carries through into this book and the way she approaches both her work and her writing.

In this conversation, we explore:

• how easily people can find themselves adapting to expectations without realising it
• the role of internal beliefs and emotional patterns in shaping external experiences
• the balance between intuition and taking action in everyday life
• what it can look like to step forward when being visible doesn’t feel straightforward

Debi also reads selected passages from the book, including reflections on energy, personal memory, and the balance between intuition and action—what she describes as the “mystic” and the “magician.”

We also touch on the writing process itself, including revisiting personal experiences and how that shaped the final book.

This conversation explores themes of self-expression, personal choice, energy, and how internal beliefs can influence the way we experience and shape our lives.

About: Debi Barr is a soul guide, mentor, and bestselling author of The Call of the Sacred Rebel. She helps people reclaim their power and remember who they really are - through deep energetics, spiritual mentoring, and creative expression.
Her work blends spiritual insight with unapologetic self-expression, guiding others to live with courage, clarity, and purpose.

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