What if the problem isn't your mindset?

What if the real issue is the subconscious money story running underneath it?

In this episode of the Expansive CEO Podcast, Hannah Chapman and Lauren Ammon explore why the popular scarcity vs abundance conversation is far more nuanced than most coaches admit. They unpack the difference between mindset and what Lauren calls "bodyset," the subconscious patterns that shape our relationship with money, worthiness, safety, and receiving.

Together they discuss:

• Why affirmations often fail to create lasting change

• The role of subconscious money stories

• Human Design and open-center conditioning

• The bridge between scarcity and abundance

• Why sufficiency matters more than positivity

• Treating money as a relationship

• How childhood experiences shape financial behaviors

• The power of awareness and small shifts

• Real-life examples of money stories in action

• How entrepreneurs can begin creating healthier relationships with money

This episode is packed with practical insights, personal stories, Human Design wisdom, and powerful questions to help you uncover the patterns influencing your financial life.

If you've ever wondered why mindset work alone hasn't created the results you want, this conversation may provide the missing piece.

✨ Get your own Money Story Cards!

Visit: https://www.moneystorycards.com

Join us on Substack: https://expansiveceo.substack.com/

Ready to work with a fiduciary CFP to build your long-term wealth strategy? Hannah is currently accepting new clients at X² Wealth Planning.

Schedule a complimentary consultation: https://calendly.com/hannahrchapman/60-minute-exploration-call

Hannah Chapman, CFP®, APMA®, CRPC® | hannah.chapman@x2wealthplanning.com | x2wealthplanning.com

What if your biggest financial challenge isn't your income, investments, or business strategy?

What if it's a story you've been carrying for decades without realizing it?

In this episode of the Expansive CEO Podcast, Hannah Chapman and Lauren Ammon celebrate the launch of Money Story Cards and dive deep into the hidden beliefs, emotional conditioning, and Human Design patterns that shape our relationship with money.

The conversation explores how childhood experiences, family dynamics, and unconscious conditioning create lifelong money stories—and how awareness becomes the gateway to freedom. Through personal stories, client experiences, and Human Design insights, Hannah and Lauren reveal why the goal isn't to eliminate every emotional "wiggle," but to recognize patterns with greater awareness and compassion.

They also discuss how different Human Design centers influence our relationship with money, worthiness, conflict, direction, and self-expression, and why healing your money story changes far more than your bank account.

In this episode:

• Why most people have never had meaningful conversations about money

• How awareness creates transformation

• The connection between Human Design and money stories

• Why emotional triggers around money often begin in childhood

• The importance of asking better questions

• Sales conversations and financial objections

• The difference between curiosity and defensiveness

• How entrepreneurs unconsciously absorb client money stories

✨ Get your own Money Story Cards!

Visit: https://www.moneystorycards.com

Join us on Substack: https://expansiveceo.substack.com/

Ready to work with a fiduciary CFP to build your long-term wealth strategy? Hannah is currently accepting new clients at X² Wealth Planning. Schedule a complimentary consultation: https://calendly.com/hannahrchapman/25-minute-get-to-know-you-call?back=1

Hannah Chapman, CFP®, APMA®, CRPC® | hannah.chapman@x2wealthplanning.com | x2wealthplanning.com

What if your relationship with money was shaped long before you ever earned your first dollar?

In this episode of the Expansive CEO Podcast, Hannah and Lauren explore the hidden emotional patterns, nervous system responses, and childhood conditioning that shape our relationship with money — and ultimately impact our businesses, relationships, decisions, and sense of worth.

This conversation dives into:
✨ Money stories and subconscious financial conditioning
✨ Childhood experiences that shape spending and saving patterns
✨ Nervous system responses around money
✨ Hiding, guilt, over-giving, and fear of asking for money
✨ Human Design and emotional patterns around worthiness
✨ Generational money conditioning
✨ Entrepreneurship and emotional triggers
✨ Healing financial shame and self-sabotage
✨ Parenting and interrupting unhealthy money patterns
✨ Why awareness changes everything

Hannah shares the origin story of her Money Story Meditation work and explains how emotional responses around money often live in the body — not just the mind. Lauren opens up vulnerably about her own relationship with money, visibility, worthiness, and learning to feel safe looking directly at finances.

Together, they unpack how Human Design, emotional awareness, and conscious financial work can help entrepreneurs stop operating from fear, shame, and survival mode — and instead build a more grounded, prosperous relationship with money.

This episode is for you if:

• money conversations make you anxious

• you avoid looking at your finances

• you struggle to ask for what you're worth

• you over-give financially or energetically

• you feel shame around spending or receiving

• you want to heal your relationship with money

• you're ready for deeper prosperity work

✨ Want support with this work?

Visit: https://www.expansiveceo.com

Want to be coached live on the podcast?

Email: lauren@expansiveceo.com

Join us on Substack: https://expansiveceo.substack.com/

Ready to work with a fiduciary CFP to build your long-term wealth strategy? Hannah is currently accepting new clients at X² Wealth Planning. Schedule a complimentary consultation: https://calendly.com/hannahrchapman/25-minute-get-to-know-you-call?back=1

Hannah Chapman, CFP®, APMA®, CRPC® | hannah.chapman@x2wealthplanning.com | x2wealthplanning.com