We have a lot of feelings about our bodies. What we don't have (and what the church has largely failed to give us) is a theology of them.

Lisa Whittle has been a Bible teacher, bestselling author, and pastor's daughter her whole life. And even she admits she never thought to open Scripture and ask: what does God actually say about this from Genesis to Revelation, all the way through? It took a season of hearing women's stories, getting genuinely offended by the emptiness of the body-positivity movement, and a direct invitation from her publisher to finally take that deep dive. What she found changed her.

In this conversation, we explore why the church's silence on the body has been a teaching in itself, and not always a helpful one. We talk about Imago Dei and why knowing it intellectually isn't the same as living from it. We also unpack what "It is finished" means for the woman who still hates what she sees in the mirror, as well as for the woman who lives in chronic pain or disability and wonders if whole body theology is even available to her.

Spoiler: it is. Whole body theology leaves no body out.

We also go somewhere that doesn't get talked about enough… the particular weight that falls on women in ministry who step onto a platform and suddenly find themselves fighting a second invisible battle alongside the one they were actually called to fight.

This is a conversation that is equal parts honest, theological, and deeply freeing. Lisa's Bible study Body and Soul is linked in the show notes and it’s a MUST DO recommendation from me.

Lisa’s Website: https://www.lisawhittle.com/

Lisa on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lisawhittle/

Body & Soul Bible Study: https://tinyurl.com/mv6kbrjj
Lisa’s Books and Bible Studies: https://www.lisawhittle.com/books

What if your “quiet time” doesn't have to look like everyone else's?

Kim Pepper never set out to be a creative faith coach. She was a blogger, a wife, a mom of three, until a blindside divorce in early 2020 left her sitting alone in a COVID lockdown, holding a life she didn't recognize and feelings she didn't know how to put into words. Journaling felt too exposed. Writing felt too raw. So she picked up a pen and started drawing instead.

What she discovered in the margins of a devotional book changed everything, not just about grief, but about the way God had always been trying to meet her.

In this conversation, Kim and I dig into what it means to connect with God through creativity, why so many women walk away from traditional Bible study feeling like failures, and how the fear of doing it wrong has kept a lot of us from showing up at all. Kim's answer is simple and quietly revolutionary: it's a prayer on paper. And there's no wrong way to pray.

Whether you've never been able to stick with a Bible study, or you've been doodling through church your whole life without realizing why, this one might be the permission slip you didn't know you needed.

Kim’s Website: www.kimpepper.com

Kim on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/kimpeppercreative/

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Some stories don't fit neatly into a testimony card. Ro Elliott's story is one of them. In this episode, Ro sits down with me to walk through a life marked by unexpected loss, hard-won faith, and the kind of redemption that only makes sense in hindsight.

Ro grew up in a tightly-knit Italian Catholic family outside New York City before her father's job transfer landed them in the deeply unfamiliar terrain of East Tennessee where she encountered Protestants, Baptist churches on every corner, and eventually, Jesus. What followed wasn't a neat conversion story. It was a slow unraveling and rebuilding that touched every part of her life,

and yet… Ro kept her grip on the God those communities had distorted, asked him hard questions, and found her way back, not just to church, but to genuine healing and community.

This conversation is honest, unhurried, and full of the kind of hope that has actually been tested. If you're in the middle of your own hard story, this one's for you.

Ro’s Website: https://www.roelliottconsulting.com/

Ro on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/roelliott/