In this episode of the ParrotsLab podcast, Naja sits down with Will, an estate planning attorney, for a candid and human conversation about what estate planning really is and what most people misunderstand about it.

Together, they break down the biggest misconception around estate planning: that it’s only for the rich. Will explains why estate planning applies to everyday people, families, and relationships, not just wealth, and how even modest assets can trigger long, expensive probate processes without proper planning.

The conversation goes beyond wills and trusts and dives into the relational and emotional side of estate planning healthcare decisions, incapacity planning, family conflict, and how human behavior often becomes the biggest variable once someone passes away. Will shares real insights into how estate plans are used while people are still alive, especially in cases of medical emergencies, incapacity, or business continuity.

Naja and Will also explore:

• The difference between wills and trusts and when each makes sense

• Why people avoid estate planning and talking about death

• How estate planning helps minimize family conflict

• Why trust, relationships, and values matter more than documents

• The importance of choosing the right people to carry out your wishes

• Long-term thinking, legacy, and what “being rich” really means

They also touch on Will’s personal journey, his vision for growing a modern estate planning practice, and how creativity, side passions, and authenticity play a role in building meaningful professional relationships.

This episode is an honest, thoughtful discussion meant to educate, normalize uncomfortable conversations, and empower listeners to think differently about estate planning not as a legal checkbox, but as a life planning tool.