Episode 85 of the SWP Podcast features the delightful Jess Von Bank, Co-Founder of Now to Next, for a special crossover episode between our two podcasts. We explored one of the biggest questions facing organisations today: how AI is fundamentally changing the way work is designed, delivered and governed.

Jess shared why she believes too many organisations are simply applying AI to existing processes rather than taking the opportunity to redesign work from the ground up. We discussed the rise of agentic AI, the balance between human capability and machine intelligence, and why governance, critical thinking and workforce readiness will become even more important as organisations accelerate AI adoption.

We also unpacked the evolution of the skills movement, why organisations are increasingly shifting their attention towards outcomes and work architecture, and how strategic workforce planning, workforce transformation and AI strategy are beginning to converge. We finished by exploring the future role of HR, the cultural barriers that continue to hold transformation back, and why enabling people to think differently is just as important as investing in new technology.

If you're interested in the future of work, workforce planning, AI and organisational transformation, I think you'll find this to be one of our most thought-provoking conversations yet.