Episode 8: Chen Gu on What 15,000 Years With Dogs Tells Us About AI
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Episode 8: Chen Gu on What 15,000 Years With Dogs Tells Us About AI
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What if AI is not a machine we built but an intelligence we are domesticating, the way early humans domesticated dogs 15,000 years ago? Chen Gu, an engineer who became a lawyer and now builds AI tools for the legal profession, brings a theory that reframes the whole debate. When humans tamed dogs, he argues, we may have domesticated ourselves in the process, and the same thing could be happening now with AI.
Andrew takes the optimist seat and sees a path to symbiosis. Liz presses on control, morality, and who gets to set the rules. Chen lands somewhere sharper: you cannot guarantee a moral AI any more than you can guarantee a moral human, and the only real safeguard may be individual ownership of your own model. A conversation about power, trust, and whether we end up as partners or pets.