I loved getting the chance to talk with Shirley Hailstock, who has spent decades writing and championing Black romance. She was there when Black romance was still fighting for space on bookstore shelves—and later became an early indie author, long before independent publishing became the industry it is today.

And it all started with a dare.

On this month’s A Time to Thrill, Shirley and I talk about writing that first book, navigating a changing publishing industry, and building a long career around something deceptively simple: the belief that strong women deserve love stories, too.

Let’s chat. I have *so* many questions. You can find Shirley Hailstock: Website: http://www.shirleyhailstock.net Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/shailstock Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/shirleyhailstock/

White Diamonds Under the Sheets (previously published as Clara’s Promise) The Christmas Experiment (coming soon)

Authors & Books in the podcast:

Rosamund du Jardin Exodus Warsaw Ghetto Anatomy of a Murder by Robert Traver Dean Koontz by Stephen King Salem’s Lot The Shining The Stand

Sandra Brown Felicia Mason Donna Hill First Grave on the Right by Darynda Jones Debra Holland Satin Straps by Ann Hansen The Hero’s Journey by Chris Volger Backstreet starring John Gavin

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