In this episode of Long Run: Navigating the Miles of Modern Leadership, Martin sits down with Elli Bliss — Co‑Founding Director of Mokita Training and Consultancy and practitioner working across anti‑racism, women’s health, and organisational change.

Elli’s work lives in the places where leadership becomes real: high‑stakes conversations, cultural safety, systemic blind spots, and the emotional labour of change. Together, we explore what leadership looks like when the evidence is incomplete, when the system is messy, and when the work requires both courage and care.

We cover:

• How Elli’s leadership identity formed across healthcare, academia, and EDI

• What accountable leadership looks like in anti‑racism and cultural safety

• Why women’s health and menopause are leadership issues, not side topics

• How to lead responsibly when the evidence base is evolving

• The tension between systems change and individual change

• What behaviours genuinely shift culture

• What’s giving Elli hope in her work right now

This is a conversation for leaders who want to move beyond performative change and step into leadership that is grounded, human, and accountable.

If you’re navigating complexity, leading through uncertainty, or trying to build cultures where people can genuinely thrive — this episode is for you.

You can find Elli on instagram @oesa_periods_and_beyond and @mokita.training.

Elli mentioned the work by Dr. Louise Newson and you can listen to her podcast which is The Dr. Louise Newson Podcast www.drlouisenewson.co.uk/podcasts