We’re back with a jam-packed episode featuring the return of one of our favorite guests, Tully Bertorelli, who is back to talk about recent events involving The Collective, his match for the UPW American Championship against “Nerd Rage” Melvin Hayes on Saturday at UPW Clash in Champion, and updates on some of his recent art and music releases.

We start the show talking about a bad experience Bob had (saved Jon just in time) attempting to watch the SHINE 85 pay per view. Bob talks about how his subpar experience with Club WWN in the past was overshadowed this time by a complete inability to view the show that was purchased

Bob and Jon also discuss the huge news regarding a shake up and new ownership at FTC Art of Grappling which saw Brox Boulder ousted as trainer, and the voluntary departures of many of the former FTC AOG talent. Brox has started his own school called Aftermath. Brox will join us next week for an exclusive interview about his departure from FTC AOG and the inspiration behind Aftermath. Don’t miss it!!

Before we get to Tully, Bob and Jon debate the new licensing model being used by the Creator Sports Network, which recently signed Ohio Valley Wrestling as their first wrestling entity. Is it the wave of the future or just another gimmick that will ultimately fail? Bob and Jon have different opinions and they begin the debate about creator-led live sports that is certainly just beginning.

Finally, Jon introduces you (and Bob) to the world of Soft Ground Wrestling out of Uganda. If you have not seen clips of this promotion, go check them out. It’s a cool new spin on wrestling. Some of your favorite stars have appeared there already!

In our Control Center, we preview three shows happening this weekend, all on Saturday from:

• Heartland Championship Wrestling
• The Gulf Coast Wrestling
• KAOS Wrestling

Next week will be a huge show. We will have Brox Boulder discussing the events that led to his departure from FTC AOG and starting his own school. We will also be joined by Rich Buchholtz in the final moments before RPW Redemption and the reveal of the folks behind Savage Seduction. STAY TUNED!!

00:00:00 – Intro, News & Notes

00:47:30 – Interview with Tully Bertorelli

01:29:02 – Control Center