Andy Mineo and Wordsplayed are back as Magic and Bird, and tell us all about the sequel to their 2017 cult classic album. We also get into the state of Christian hip-hop, why nobody is vetted anymore, and spend a genuinely uncomfortable amount of time guessing Derek Minor's net worth to his face.

In RELEVANT Buzz, the SBC voted to ban women from the pulpit and it wasn't close. Victory Boyd forgave Travis Scott and ended up in the studio with him. And Pharrell started his Christian rap era with a Voices of Fire song called "The One."

In Slices, someone claimed a religious exemption from using AI at work, and Derek has decided it might be the greatest finesse in history.

We also stop to mark World Refugee Day with an eye-opening conversation from the frontlines of Sudan about the world’s largest humanitarian crisis happening there.

Then One Has to Go closes it out: a suspiciously cheap dollar slice, Rambo in 2026, and the case against Shaq.

Highlights:

00:00 — Intro / Derek’s frustrating tech updates

10:42 — RELEVANT Buzz: Victory Boyd & Travis Scott go from lawsuit to collaborating

14:08 — The SBC votes to ban women in the pulpit

17:23 — Pharrell's "The One" with Voices of Fire

20:38 — World Refugee Day: the crisis in Sudan with World Vision’s Grace Mavhezha

25:13 — Slices: A religious exemption to not use AI at work?

29:36 — RELEVANT Conversation: Andy Mineo & Wordsplayed on Magic and Bird 2

36:24 — The state of Christian hip-hop

40:16 — Putting Derek Minor's net worth on blast

51:51 — The five-week album rollout and why nothing breaks through anymore

56:24 — One Has to Go

1:07:40 — Outro