Busy. Tired. Running on fumes.
Sound familiar?

In Part 2 of our conversation with Dr. Greg Smalley (VP of Marriage at Focus on the Family), we talk about what really happens to marriages when life gets overwhelming—and why “we’ll fix it later” rarely works.

Greg shares a devastating personal story about his daughter’s marriage ending on her third anniversary, and how that moment reshaped the way he thinks about commitment, humility, and what actually sustains a marriage over time.

In this episode, we explore:

✨How busyness and exhaustion slowly disconnect couples

✨Why two empty people can’t build a healthy marriage

✨Why identity is always shifting—and why curiosity matters more than certainty

✨How caring for yourself isn’t selfish, it’s essential

✨Why small daily moments matter more than big getaways

✨A simple 10-minute High/Low check-in that keeps couples emotionally connected

If you’ve ever thought, “I didn’t sign up for this,” or feel like your marriage is surviving on leftovers, this conversation will meet you right where you are—with honesty, hope, and practical tools.

🎧 Listen in and learn how to stay connected—even in the busiest seasons of life.

🌐You can find Dr. Greg Smalley and learn more about their work at ⁠https://www.focusonthefamily.com/⁠

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