with Alec Pearson, Nick Sellers and Tiffany Barnard.

In this episode, we explore why patience — something we’re taught to value — can sometimes get in the way of progress. We look at the moments where waiting becomes hesitation, where caution becomes procrastination, and where leaders unintentionally stall their own momentum.

In this conversation, we explore:

1. The fine line between patience and procrastination — and why they’re not the same thing.
2. How fear, perfectionism and lack of confidence shape timing in ways we don’t always recognise.
3. Why leaders often wait for the “perfect moment” — and why that moment rarely arrives.
4. When patience fuels sustainable progress and when it becomes a subtle form of avoidance.
5. How passion, purpose and process influence our ability to act with clarity and conviction.
6. Simple practices to judge timing more effectively so you don’t miss out on opportunities that matter.

If you’ve ever found yourself waiting… and not quite sure why, this conversation will help you see patience in a new light — not as a fixed virtue, but as something we need to use deliberately, not automatically.

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