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What does it really mean to be a “good person” … and who gets to define that?

In this thought-provoking episode of the Strong By Design Podcast, Coach Chris Wilson sits down with friend and co-host Pastor Jared Haley to tackle one of the most important and misunderstood questions of our time:

Can you be good without God?

From the outside, “goodness” seems simple: be kind, do the right thing, help others.

But as Chris and Jared unpack throughout this conversation, the deeper you go, the more complex it becomes. Is goodness just behavior? Is it intention? Or is there a higher standard we’re often ignoring?

Together, they explore the tension between cultural definitions of being “nice” and the biblical idea of true righteousness. You’ll hear honest insights on human nature, the limits of moral effort, and why even our best actions may fall short of a perfect standard.

This episode isn’t about pointing fingers; it’s about asking better questions.

Questions like:

• Why is defining “good” harder than we think?
• Are we shaped more by habit, wiring, or something deeper?
• Can a polished reputation actually hide deeper issues?
• What do everyday decisions reveal about who we really are?

You’ll also discover how small, consistent actions (micro-habits) shape character over time and why embracing the tension in life, rather than avoiding it, may be the key to growth.

Whether you’re a person of faith, exploring spirituality, or just trying to live a meaningful life, this conversation will challenge your assumptions and sharpen your perspective.

Time Stamps

00:00 – Why your natural gifts aren't an accident
00:50 – Welcome to the Strong by Design podcast!
1:15 – Join hosts Chris Wilson and Jared Haley for today’s special episode
1:35 – The truth about the male brain no one talks about
6:03 – Why “being good” is harder to define than you think
9:33 – The hidden patterns shaping who you really are
12:38 – Why perfection might be out of reach
15:43 – Know the gap between politeness and real goodness
24:48 – Ethical dilemmas that don't have a "right" answer.
30:52 – Why a "perfect" reputation is often a dangerous sign
34:52 – Micro-Habits, Macro-Change
42:03 – Modern assumptions about faith and community
49:51 – How the smallest moments reveal who you truly are
55:54 – Embracing the tension at the center of the human experience
58:09 – Please share and leave ratings & reviews for the SBD podcast!

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