🎙️ Coffee, Chaos and ProdSec, Ep 24

AI security is already happening in production, and most teams are governing systems after they're live, not during design.

So this week, Kurt and Cameron sit down with special guest Tarak, a Co-Founder, Cloud Platform Builder, and Cyber AI Agents Architect, to break down what happens when AI agents ship faster than security policies can keep up. From shadow AI sprawling across consumer tools even when enterprise copilots exist, to provenance gaps that break incident response before it starts, to automation that hides real breaches in a sea of low-confidence alerts, this episode tackles the failure modes most teams are already seeing but haven't named yet.

Your hosts dig into why retrofitting security onto AI systems collapses fast, how build pipelines change when AI shapes code before any control runs, and where human-in-the-loop boundaries actually matter versus where they just slow things down. It's an honest look at where AI genuinely helps Application Security teams and where it creates entirely new chaos, with real stories and zero vendor pitches.

If you work in Product Security, DevSecOps, Application Security, or Software Supply Chain Security, or you just want to hear three security practitioners question reality while AI rewrites the rulebook, this episode is your jam.

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