On the 69th episode of Enterprise AI Innovators, hosts Evan Reiser (CEO and co-founder, Abnormal AI) and Saam Motamedi (General Partner, Greylock Partners) are joined by Greg Meyers, Chief Digital and Technology Officer at Bristol Myers Squibb. Bristol Myers Squibb is one of the top ten pharmaceutical companies, with about 30,000 employees and roughly 45 billion dollars in annual revenue, making specialty medicines in oncology, immunology, and neurology. Greg shares how BMS puts commercially scalable AI products in front of doctors, why a science company had to start thinking like a data company, and how a small-team accelerator de-risks ambitious AI bets in a highly regulated industry.

Quick Hits from Greg:

On thinking like a data company: "to models, negative results matter as much as positive results."

On running small experimental teams: "making them too small to fail in a public or embarrassing way was really important."

On what really gates AI adoption: "psychology and sociology trump technology every time."

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Enterprise AI Innovators is a show where top technology executives share specific ways AI changes how work gets done in the enterprise.

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Enterprise AI Innovators is produced by Abnormal Studios.

On the 68th episode of Enterprise AI Innovators, host Saam Motamedi (General Partner, Greylock Partners) talks with Paul Beswick, SVP & Chief Information and Operations Officer at Marsh, about building production-grade AI tooling in days, why a portfolio of twenty small sequential projects beats three big flagship ones, and what the scaffolding around the firm's internal LenAI tool taught Marsh about agent harnesses and operational AI.

Quick Hits from Paul:

On staying current as a CIOO: "I code probably weekly if not more."

On building scrappy versus buying commercial: "We only lag by a few months, and it costs a lot less to do it this way."

On a new CIO's first three AI projects: "Break those three into 20 each and do them sequentially, one at a time."

Book Recommendation: Titus Groan by Mervyn Peake.

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Enterprise AI Innovators is a show where top technology executives share specific ways AI changes how work gets done in the enterprise.

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Enterprise AI Innovators is produced by Abnormal Studios.

On the 67th episode of Enterprise AI Innovators, host Evan Reiser (CEO and co-founder, Abnormal AI) talks with Joel Hron, Chief Technology Officer at Thomson Reuters. Joel shares how Thomson Reuters is rebuilding 150-year-old knowledge-work franchises in legal, tax, and compliance around agentic AI, what changed when more than half of his engineers' code started being written by AI, and why the right mental model for working with AI is "colleague," not "copilot."

Quick Hits from Joel:

On the engineer-to-controller reframe: "Your job as an engineer shifted from being the contributor and owner of the code base to being more the controller and governor of the code base."

On the trust gaps blocking enterprise agents: "The control system around the agent is something that I think really needs to be built out further for enterprises to get comfortable with allowing agents to just do work in a more independent way."

On doing technical review at 5,000-engineer scale: "You can literally go clone the repo and spend an hour with Claude or with Codex talking about the code."

Book Recommendation: Thinking, Fast and Slow by Daniel Kahneman.

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Enterprise AI Innovators is a show where top technology executives share specific ways AI changes how work gets done in the enterprise.

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Enterprise AI Innovators is produced by Abnormal Studios.