How do we prepare the next generation for a world where AI and connectivity are a given?

In this episode, host Ian Ginn welcomes Martine de Leeuw, Co-founder and CMO of Chat License, a startup providing a digital "driver's licence" for children.

Martina explains the philosophy behind Chat License: a science-backed, gamified app developed with Erasmus University Rotterdam that helps families navigate the transition to a child's first digital device. Rather than just restricting access, Chat License empowers children with the skills to handle photo sharing, scams, and digital etiquette.

What you’ll learn:

• Why "prevention" is key to tackling cybercrime and digital addiction.
• The role of telcos and cities (like Amsterdam and Rotterdam) in promoting digital citizenship.
• How to have meaningful conversations with your children about their favourite games, like FIFA or Roblox.
• Martina’s advice for entrepreneurs looking to use AI for good.

Links & Resources:

• Chat License

Episode sponsored by IFG Consulting Europe– Supporting telcos with tech strategy, digitisation and growth.

Guest Bio:

ChatLicense is a science backed gamified guide that enables digital healthy habits & skills from the start. This first app of the online world of children acts as a 'driver’s license' - empowering kids and their parents to navigate the online world safely, wisely, and confidently. Our goal is to foster happy cyber vibes in a world where digital connectivity is a commodity and where rapid developments continue to reshape how we live, learn, and connect. Together, we’re shaping a safer, more positive digital future starting with the next generation.

Founder JungleBird Agency While meeting entrepreneurs from all over the world on the same journey towards a better future JungleBird Agency was born. Wherever triple-bottom-line thinking is at heart or just a start, we help increase their impact.

Podcast credits:

• Host: Ian Ginn
• Editor: Francis Wright
• Designer: Rebecca Ginn
• Project manager: Ivana Duric

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