Ben returns for a discussion on the great King Arthur, his mythos, the legacy and lessons of the knights of the round table. Jonathan uses specific examples of tales from the historical classic to draw out some lessons for living, loving and fighting for what's good, while Ben complicates the picture with questions around nobility and sacrifice.

Ben shares a representation, and Jonathan builds on the ideas within his talk of creativity and freedom. They explore the social dilemmas around freedom and the difficulty finding it, even in our selves. The discussion touches on various approaches to system building and destroying, as well as areas where it might be correct to avoid imposing control altogether.

We are all called upon to be both student and teacher in our lives, but how does the educational system treat these roles? In our final episode in a four part series, Sean and Jonathan examine the role of the teacher and the associated responsibilities of the position. In the second half of the podcast, a challenge is put to students and there is a discussion on the mechanisms of motivation that might need to be fostered.

The structure of a school, and the systems that prop it up. Emily shares her analogy and considers how to enrich the lives of students and educators from her experience working to develop modern day systems. Jonathan complains that the education system is far behind the curve of progress and development, and points out the self-enforcing two-way cycle of miseducation between schools and wider social institutions.

Sean returns to explore the meta-ethical underpinnings of our education system, and how a shift in focus might address the various problems within it. Jonathan shares his views on this, perhaps the most important of social functions.

Special guest Sean Clifford reflects on a new kind of education system which prioritises character over grades.